My First Attempt At Lding, Views Please?

**jay2jay99** · 08-22-2006 07:59 PM

Hi there, I'm a newbee to this and to my knowledge I have never had a lucid dream, i was only told about it recently by a friend and have been doing some research into it, mainly on this site, and a few others. I had my first attempt last night, I didn't have a lucid dream, but I had a few things happen and wanted to get your views and opinions on whether my approach is correct.

I went to bed at 10pm and set my alarm for 3am, 3am came and I woke up, I sat up out of bed and logged on to this site and for about 40mins was reading articles and spent the whole time generally thinking about lucid dreams. I got back into bed at about 3:40am laying on my back, I did try my side as this is how I normally sleep but I felt like it was just like going to sleep normally and found it hard to clear my head. I never sleep on my back but I can relax quite easily, I laid there with my arms to my side trying to keep a clear and open mind, most of the time I didn't really 'see' anything, I was trying the counting thing... 1 I am dreaming, 2 I am dreaming, 3 I am dreaming.... and so on, I'd get up to around 20 and then start to lose my place and I'd be jumping around 20 to 6 to 12 etc. Is this me going to sleep? Should I try to keep it in order or should I just let it go?
I did start seeing bits but it was more like imaginations rather than clear pictures. I think I was pulling away from them a bit as I thought I was going to sleep. I started to get a tingling sensation all down my underside where I was laying on the bed and then what seemed like REM.... I could tell my eyes were flicking, I remember trying earlier in the day to move my eyes fast consciously but couldn't get it anywhere near as fast as they were going now! Shortly after I woke up, my right arm was partially numb, two fingers on that hand were stone cold numb but I hadn't noticed, could this have just been how I was laying? I glanced over to the clock and it was 4:50am, that short process lasted over an hour!
After this I rolled over and went to sleep in a second, my alarm went off to wake me up for work and normally I have about 10 alarms to get me up (don't like getting up for work :-) ), this time I was up and out of bed on the first alarm!

Well, that was my first try, reckon I was anywhere near? Any tips or suggestions?

One more question, when you're laying there trying to relax, if you have an itch do you scratch it or try to ignore it? Same with yawning? Sounds odd but something I had last night.

Many thanks,

Jason.

Ev · 08-23-2006 07:58 AM

It seems like you tried to combine WILD and WBTB techniques. I'm not sure this is the best idea.

I dont practice WBTB so I cant advise you about that.

To try WILD just set your alarm to about 4-5 hours after you go to sleep. Hopefully you will wake up in the middle of an REM cycle. Turn off the alarm and just lay there trying to remain a little bit aware. If you dont feel the WILD onset within 10 minutes just let go and try another night. Taking 50-100 mg of vitamin B6 will help you but dont do take it more than twice a week.

It is pretty hard to produce LDs without ever having one, so dont get discouraged if you dont have a LD after each attempt.

**Shadow Dreamer** · 08-23-2006 12:23 PM

i've tried WBTB u should stay awake for about 60-90 minutes and around halfway get a dairy based snack like cheese milk or even chocolate and keep think about lucid dreams it should work it did my first try but my second i wasn't putting much effort and keep drifting off to sleep and their was no cheese left

**jay2jay99** · 08-23-2006 06:55 PM

Originally Posted by Ev

It seems like you tried to combine WILD and WBTB techniques. I'm not sure this is the best idea.

I dont practice WBTB so I cant advise you about that.

To try WILD just set your alarm to about 4-5 hours after you go to sleep. Hopefully you will wake up in the middle of an REM cycle. Turn off the alarm and just lay there trying to remain a little bit aware. If you dont feel the WILD onset within 10 minutes just let go and try another night. Taking 50-100 mg of vitamin B6 will help you but dont do take it more than twice a week.

It is pretty hard to produce LDs without ever having one, so dont get discouraged if you dont have a LD after each attempt.
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Ah ok, I'll try that, I've got some 100mg B6 on it's way and some 3mg melatonin should I take both and what time? an hour before bed? earlier?

Ev · 08-23-2006 07:54 PM

take melatonin before going to sleep and B6 after waking up in the middle of the night.

**jay2jay99** · 08-24-2006 09:12 AM

Originally Posted by Ev

take melatonin before going to sleep and B6 after waking up in the middle of the night.
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Ah ok, I'll do that! Fingers crossed!

**Lyla** · 08-25-2006 02:43 PM

I had a similar experience, tried to WILD after about 5 hours of sleep and then staying awake for about an hour. I didn't see anything, but I felt my body go numb. Anyway, you're on the right track! Keep trying! Are you also keeping a dream journal? I've read that it's very important.
Good luck and be careful with the B6; altough it causes you to have very clear, even lucid, dreams, I heard it can also cause nightmares!

**jay2jay99** · 08-26-2006 01:14 AM

Originally Posted by Lyla

I had a similar experience, tried to WILD after about 5 hours of sleep and then staying awake for about an hour. I didn't see anything, but I felt my body go numb. Anyway, you're on the right track! Keep trying! Are you also keeping a dream journal? I've read that it's very important.
Good luck and be careful with the B6; altough it causes you to have very clear, even lucid, dreams, I heard it can also cause nightmares!
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Cheers, I have now got a notepad sitting by my bed. Although since I've been conscious of what I'm trying to achieve I wake up remembering more and more dreams.

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