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      Dreams are in your mind, right?

      So can you think while your in a dream? If you can't... with this logic... then through the day saying mentally, "Am I dreaming... or I'm dreaming.." won't help, because in a dream you verbally speak everything...

      Does this make sense?

      Let me try to explain this better(consider this view point):

      While you are dreaming you cannot "think" because you are already thinking, e.g. creating the dream world. Although you cannot think to yourself in your dream, you can speak in your dream. Meaning that reality and the dream world have this in common. Thus when you are trying to convince yourself of something you should speak it verbally, instead of mentally. Something spoken verbally has more power then something that you just think. And through speaking verbally, you will then be able to speak it in your dreams.

      e.g. Thinking, or speaking mentally, will not be replicated in your dream because you cannot think while you are already thinking.

      Now this is just a hypothetical opinion

      Any thoughts?
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      Nah. I disagree. I think all the time, in my dreams. I even have my same inner-monologue as I do when I'm awake. I can either speak or think, just like in real life, when dreaming.
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      Hello ezekiel7,

      That&#39;s good intellectual pondering&#33;

      Observe that there is a contradiction here - "While you are dreaming you cannot &#39;think&#39; because you are already thinking, e.g. creating the dream world." Dreams cannot be &#39;created&#39; while you are asleep; you can create them when you are awake, and that would be &#39;Day dreaming&#39;. While a dream world is being weaved by an as yet unexplained process, you find yourself participating in it, either actively or as witness. If we take the sequence of dreams as a sequence of thoughts - which means we are already thinking - a thought creeps in (from the conscious component of our mind?) that "Hey&#33; I am dreaming&#33;", and from that point on, we become the controller of the dream.

      The subtle distinction is this: you don&#39;t create a dream, while a dream sequence is in progression, you become aware that you are dreaming, and then take control of it through a thought.

      Here is another point - "Something spoken verbally has more power then something that you just think." Imo, it is the reverse that is true.

      Finally, this statement - "e.g. Thinking, or speaking mentally, will not be replicated in your dream because you cannot think while you are already thinking." What you are perhaps trying to dichotomize here is &#39;conscious (wake-level) thinking&#39; and &#39;subconscious (dream-level) thinking&#39;. My hunch is that the first thought that triggers lucidity comes from the conscious component. That is the only time when this dichotomy becomes apparent. Otherwise, it is all the same inner talk/thinking/gibberish that we get to perceive.

      My two-pence, as usual.

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      Sanjay.

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      makes sense. Those we&#39;re just my ponderings... thank you for your input and disproving my idea =P
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