Lucid Non-lucid

**Moonbeam** · 02-09-2007 04:56 AM

I know that sounds stupid but it was. I am in a dryspell big-time, and I have been listening to subliminals trying to help. Lately I keep dreaming about being in bed in weird places, like at work, and I keep dreaming about lucid dreaming--I overhear people talking about it, or I am explaining it to somebody, etc. without ever becoming lucid. Then last night, I dreamed that I was sleeping out in the street. A friend was with me, and she told me she could hypnotize me. She had me look thru a device, and I saw a scene; it was a beach with a lot of people playing in the sun, including the friend, which I thought was hilarious. She beckoned me to her, then suddenly I felt like I was in the scene. Unfortunately as soon as I became part of the scene, it shifted to the street, and all the people were in the street milling around and pushing me and stuff. I knew it wasn't real, it felt just like a lucid dream without good control. I was looking around amazed at the reality of the hypnotically-induced scene. But I didn't become lucid, because I thought I had been hypnotized!

Isn't that stupid? It can't get much worse. I know it was the subliminals that caused it, all that weird talking made me think about being hypnotized.

**sloth** · 02-09-2007 05:18 AM

Sorry, but I can't say it was lucid.
Since I have gained the ability to have lucid dreams, I have had TONS of dreams in which I knew it was not real, and I knew that I had total control, but my brain left it at that. My brain has gotten so used to lucid dreaming that now, even though I know it's not real, I don't need an explanation for it. I just know that I am back in that 'unreal' place where I can do anything.

Ain't it a bitch!?

-sloth

**Moonbeam** · 02-10-2007 03:22 AM

Huh, that is really weird. You've gotten really good at dream control thru trying to become lucid, without always becoming lucid, if I understnd you right. That would almost be as good as being totally lucid, unless you don't really do things that you would choose to do if you were totally lucid.

I have had several lucids where I am physically trapped (in a room, behind the bed, etc.); this was very similar, with the huge crowd of people around me not allowing me to move. It felt just like a lucid dream, the way I am so easily amazed at the realistic quality (which you would think I would be used to now, and move on to more important matters.) But I had a different explanation for it (the hypnotizing).

So weird. The many variations of almost lucid, or control without lucidity, or lucidity without control. In a way, what you say is kind of discouraging, because if "being in the unreal place where you can do anything" is not a good enough dream sign to make you lucid, what could possibly be!? And it sounds like you are better at LD than me anyway.

Yes, it is a bitch big-time. Yet, I observe again, so what? I'd just be sleeping anyway.

**arby** · 02-10-2007 04:27 AM

They're semi lucids. Learn to love em XD. They can be much fun.

**sloth** · 02-10-2007 04:55 AM

My original intention was not to have lucid dreams. I didn't know they existed, really. I started out trying to study them. I found that if I kept going back to sleep at certain times, I began to gain more understanding of them. At the same time, I had wild fantasies of being able to do anything with my mind. I'm sure that this helped a lot.

I can do absolutely anything in almost every dream I have, lucid or not. My brain has come to understand this, and at this point, just accepts it as being normal. In waking life, when I drop something, my FIRST instinct is to use my mind powers to make it come back. If I have to walk across the room for something, I always feel that it is a big inconvenience, long before I realize why I feel this way.