Quote Originally Posted by Moonbeam View Post

1) Traits can evolve which provide no immediate physical benefit--anything that confers reproductive success, even if it is actually a disadvantage in some situations (peacock's tail for example) can evolve. What if improves you in some mental way that could make you a more attractive partner?

2) I often dream about sex (well I used to) but that never decreased my sex drive IRL; if anything, it increased it.

3) I have heard (guy talking about sleep on public radio) that it is physically possible to sleep more than you need to.

4) I can't think of any. You have to sleep, so how is being aware that you are dreaming more dangerous than just being asleep?

I don't necessarily think that LD has evolved independently of any other mental trait that we have. Who knows maybe cats and dogs can LD. I have often wondered what they must think about their dreams, if they really have recall.




Yea, I assume the harm would be psychological, if there were any. Maybe the slightly weird tends towards wanting to LD in the first place (no offense to any/all DV members I am including myself in this&#33.
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1) LDing wouldn't improve a prehistoric mans chances at getting laid. The reason I say this is simple: a woman of old didn't look for who was the most intellectual member of the group, she looked for who was strongest, or who was pack leader.
Do you think a man of the ancients would want to become stronger or try to raise his clan position if all he had to do was close his eyes and be able to sleep with any member of the group (and then some)? I'll let you decide.
(remember that raising his clan cred could possibly kill him.)

2) Dreaming about sex is different than lucid dreaming about sex on a nightly basis.
When you just dream about it its like your watching a porno, of course you get hornier.
When you lucid dream about it nightly on the other hand, your in first person, and its exactly like your awake. Its like you actually have a new sexual partner every night. The best part? its totally centered around your beliefs on whats hot, and whats not.
The example in point no. 1 applies to this one as well.

3) A radio announcer that you heard awhile back isn't the greatest source...
Speaking from experience, when I tried to get more sleep in order to LD I developed something called hypersomnia, I was drowsy all the time, I craved sleep nonstop, and often slept at least 14 hrs a night, usually up to 16.
I think anyone who tries to sleep too much will be able to.

4) Its not more dangerous, it just has nearly zero sexually appealing benefits for a guy that has to wake up every morning and hunt bison to survive.


We're talking about the question: "why don't we lucid dream on a nightly basis" (also you can reword that to say: "why does it seem like our minds keep us from LDing")

Remember, LDing isn't controlling your actions in a dream, its saying: "I'm not awake right now, I'm in a secret world that no one can see"