Thread: Help, if possible?

Hey - sorry you are struggling.

A saying I try to remember all the time is, "If what you are doing isn't working, try ANYTHING else."

Knowing it isn't working is the trick though, isn't it? Lucid dreaming is a discipline - it comes a lot easier to some than to others.

What techniques have you been trying to use? Have you been consistent? In other words, has it been two months of trying a bunch of different things or two months of working on one technique? (Forgive me for not going and looking at your other posts to find out for myself.)

Have you considered adoption?

Answers to these questions will help others offer you guidance.

Don't give up if this is really something you want to do - all humans are capable of it... and the victory will be all the sweeter for the extra effort you've put forth.

Originally Posted by pj

Hey - sorry you are struggling.

A saying I try to remember all the time is, "If what you are doing isn't working, try ANYTHING else."

Knowing it isn't working is the trick though, isn't it? Lucid dreaming is a discipline - it comes a lot easier to some than to others.

What techniques have you been trying to use? Have you been consistent? In other words, has it been two months of trying a bunch of different things or two months of working on one technique? (Forgive me for not going and looking at your other posts to find out for myself.)

Have you considered adoption?

Answers to these questions will help others offer you guidance.

Don't give up if this is really something you want to do - all humans are capable of it... and the victory will be all the sweeter for the extra effort you've put forth.

Thanks for the reply pj, well i've tried alsorts over the past 2 months, i tried WILDs, they didn't work, then MILDs which did nothing and for the past week or two i've been doing a WBTB/MILD combination in which i tell myself that i will go back into the dream when waking up in the morning, there have been problems with this, my dream recall has been going constantly down hill and i remember hardly anything, i gave up my dream journal until after the exams, and when i wake up to do WBTB i remember no dreams so i can't imagine myself back in the dream so i can recognise it, there was one time that was semi-sucessful, i woke up an my parents went out so i tried WBTB and i had a FA, i went downstairs and my parents were already back and i saw this weird plastic object next to the kettle, i approached it and i woke up, this could have triggered lucidity but recently i've remembered hardly anything, i only remember one detail about last night but thats gone now, i remembered it this morning, as for adoption i am being adopted by bodhisattva but i rarely speak to him, i've received no PM off him recently and we added each other on MSN and he's hardly on, i think it was about a week ago he was last on, theres everything i've tried and done up to now, thanks for any input or suggestions on what i could do

Wow - you have a lot going on there.

Trying hard to concentrate and answer here... while people are talking to me, so it might not be a totally cohesive reply.

First, if the adoption isn't working out, you might want to end it and find somebody else. (Hint - there's a high-profile successful lucid dreamer around here openly looking for somebody right now.)

I've found that the recall comes and goes - but the more diligently I work on it and concentrate on remember, the better it gets. Stressful times make my recall go away, and LDs with them.

WILD is flat-out the most difficult technique to get. It sounds like you've been REALLY close though. I have had some good luck with WILD, but only immediately after having LDs through other methods, most often DILD.

Two months... it's a good start. Read my tagline, man.

thanks for all that, yeah i agree about the adoption, the guy i'm with is good but i rarely have contact with him at all so its difficult to get going anywhere, maybe i should leave adoption until after my exams because i won't have much time to come on here during my exams, i think i'll try a WILD again tonight, i'll give it a good go and see the results. I always notice your sig, its a true statement, well i'll try tonight and see the results, i'll just try not to be too excited about it, i mean i'd be fine with just one lucid dream, it then shows that i have the capability to induce them, i'll see what happens, thanks alot pj

Have you tried any affirmations? Like writing down your target every day 50 times.
It might seem that its not working at the beggining but it greatly affects the subconsious. Try to feel the excitment of reaching your target every time you write it down.

Originally Posted by lucid_seeker

...the exams...

I sympathise! When they're over and you start the DJ again - I'm sure things will pick up.

Also, as pj said, try something completely different. I dunno what you normally do but give yourself diverse life experiences. Go immerse yourself in wilderness. Get a weird shirt from a thrift shop and wear it. Eat only raw fruit for a day. Swim. Listen to some Ravi Shankar. Chat up the girl at the pizza shop. Go to bed an hour earlier than normal. Disconnect your modem. Whatever.

Best of luck!

If you are good at falling asleep then try going to bed a few hours earlier and getting up a bit later than you usually would. The amount you are in REM increases so much with those few extra hours. Also break it up by waking up after 6 hours, that way your body gets the sleep it needs for its restoration and then any sleep you get after that should have much more dream content. On the nights you sleep longer try taking some vitamin B6.

If you have this ritual of taking B6 when you have longer sleeps, just by keeping a dream journal you will see a pattern emerge of much more detailed and frequent dreams on the said nights. After a few weeks I think it would only be natural for your lucidity to pick up.