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      Calling all Naturals

      Ever since I joined this forum and started reading some of the posts, I was amazed that people have never even had LDs before. I've been having LDs my entire life. I probably have them at least once a week. When I actually try, I can generally get whenever I go to bed. I also noticed that there a lot of threads that say "I had an LD!" For me, LDs are very common and there's nothing to really get excited about. But don't get me wrong though, I enjoy my LDs just as much as the next guy. I just have them a lot.

      I realize that the majority of this forum is full of non-naturals. This is why I want to get to know some of the naturals on this site.

      I'm not trying to put down any of the non-naturals on this forum. Everyone is free to post your opinions in this thread if you want to

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      Good for you.

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      Hey there! I having been having lucid dreams since I was a child, long before I ever heard the term "lucid dreams." My mother and my youngest brother also have lucid dreams. Maybe this is silly, but I wonder if there is maybe a genetic predisposition?

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      Maybe. My mom has lucid dreams too.

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      Yo, =P

      what method best describes what you do when you DO try? Mines the VILD.

      And for families having lucids, its probably more along the frame of mind. You might have been taught by your mom to doubt this more and presto, you realize you're dreaming!

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      I also naturally LD and have been for about 12 years or so

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      I too am a natural LDer. I have been having lucid dreams my entire life, but I joined this forum because I had some severe stress that really threw my sleep habits out of wack, and so it was getting harder and harder for me to LD.

      I recently just ended my two month long dry spell and now I am having about one LD a week. I hope to improve this with time.

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      I think that everybody had mild Ld's as a child to wake themselves up from nightmares as did I. But I have had to learn lucid dreaming now that I am older.
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      Don't be so surprised by it, people who have less lucid dreams may think the same about you "how come he has so many lucid dream?" whilst you are like "people havn't experienced a lucid dream!?!" Appreciate the fact you can have them as easy as that.


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      For some reason I just naturally realize I'm dreaming all the time. It's as if my dreams aren't convincing enough for me to think it's real life :p

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      Your lucky, my bro can do the same thing apparantly but he doesn't lucid dream and doesn't want to as far as i know, i have had too many dreams in which the silliest of things have happened and i fail to realise, i wish i could have such a level of awareness in a dream to be able to question.


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      It's as if my dreams aren't convincing enough for me to think it's real life
      You must have a very good critical faculty
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      I can't really remember what I was like before I knew what lucid was. I know I had little to no recall. I simply didn't care enough about dreams. When I stumbled upon this site quite by accident, it changed the whole way I see my subconscious. Ever since then i've been closely scrutenizing my mental self, trying to get answers to the seemingly endless sea of questions.

      First was if I was "lucid" in the classical sense. What people here were talkinging about and my own experiences did not add up to make two. More along the lines of 1.5... I of course went over the possibility that I wasn't getting lucid at all. I didn't actually know I was dreaming but dreams were my own little personal playground. Do a scenario, whoop the asses off some of the badguys and save the princess. Then, I'd rewind time, add complications and see how the story worked out from there.

      The fact that I manipulated time and consciously played with my surroundings was the only major thing that assured me I was aware that I was dreaming on some level. I never became fully lucid before I came on this site i don't think. Always semi-lucids for me.

      My first full lucid wasn't that impressive. I did the lucid task and that was just about it. The dream was really hard to keep stable. I wanted do do everything that I could normally do but "reality" kept getting in the way. I was too aware that everything I was trying to do shouldn't really happen. That dream didn't last long although, I'm not sure if it ended because it was unstable or I just didn't like how it was going.

      So, for about a year I've pretty much intensely analyzed my mind and resulting actions when I'm awake (With great success! I think I've improved myself one hundredfold this way) and pretty much left my mind at night to its own semi-lucid meanderings.

      I also pop in and out of "lucid daydreams" constantly. This is less of a blessing and more of a curse. I've developed the attention span of an ADD child. You'll hear a little more bout this soon. I've gots something cooking that i'll release once I have time after this stupid summative's finished =/

      I don't even remember why I started on this little rant XD. Heres the story of a natural. Perhaps you'll understand me and why I always prefer semis better because of it.

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      Wink

      i have had a few lucid dreams before i found this site, but after finding it and reading all about lucid dreams, iv had about 3 or 4 since joining a week ago.

      comparing it to others, thats pretty good for a beginer
      guess we'll try again tonight then..

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      Quote Originally Posted by azdreams View Post
      Hey there! I having been having lucid dreams since I was a child, long before I ever heard the term "lucid dreams." My mother and my youngest brother also have lucid dreams. Maybe this is silly, but I wonder if there is maybe a genetic predisposition?

      Well now that you mention it. I've had lucid Dreams for as long as I can remember, especially in my childhood. Then my dreams were "killed' in my teenages for years and years. Later I read up on Lucid Dreaming, figured that it was what I have had in my youth and got back into it. Allthough I haven't had Lucid's in QUITE a while now andI'm haviong a Dryspell it does make me a Natural.

      My dad is a very strange person. He's extremely musically talented, plays guitar bizarrely well, sings while at the same time he's an ignorant fool and somewhat materialistic at times.

      I asked him if he ever had a Lucid Dream and explained what it was( "did you ever have a dream where you KNEW it was a dream?") and he replied: "yeah that sometimes happens"

      I've asked this question to alot of people. Many say they have had one or more but they seem so NOT-enthusiastic that I think they either completely misunderstood me or might have had some incidental very low level lucids that weren't at all impressive.

      My dad said: "yeah that sometimes happens" which sounds alot more like how I would describe my LD-frequency. Now that I think of it he might have the same spontanious Lucids I have. Spontaniously and somewhat frequently.
      I'm gunna have to ask him about it.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Infraredkelp View Post
      Ever since I joined this forum and started reading some of the posts, I was amazed that people have never even had LDs before. I've been having LDs my entire life. I probably have them at least once a week. When I actually try, I can generally get whenever I go to bed. I also noticed that there a lot of threads that say "I had an LD!" For me, LDs are very common and there's nothing to really get excited about. But don't get me wrong though, I enjoy my LDs just as much as the next guy. I just have them a lot.

      I realize that the majority of this forum is full of non-naturals. This is why I want to get to know some of the naturals on this site.

      I'm not trying to put down any of the non-naturals on this forum. Everyone is free to post your opinions in this thread if you want to

      yea dude i feel the same (im natural) , when i got into this forum i felt i was surrounded by pros , but then i realised that i am almost one of those pros, but i dont know much about al those abreviations (and i have eperienced them)and i get like 2 or 3 lucids a week too.
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      I met a girl at EFY who could naturally lucid dream. It made me mad cause I try really hard and can't do it very well and want to, and she can do it whenever she wants but usually "gives her self up to the dream" (as she says) because she'd rather just dream normally. that makes me depressed that people can have that gift and take it for granted. Sorry for posting if you didn't want any "non-naturals" here!

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      I never naturally had LDs through my life. There were a good amount of times where I "knew" I was dreaming, but that is different than being Lucid. I have also had really good natural dream recall.

      Ever since reading the site, I have become a very blessed natural LD'er. My average amount of LD's are in my signature below....

      And to be quite honest I don't put anywhere near enough effort into it as I should.

      Heres how it usually happens for me:


      I go to sleep. Wake up naturally in the mornings...simply "think" about LDing...then I miss a beat sort of, as if I naturally fall asleep, and then naturally I always seem to be looking at a dream and my conscious mind almost does the work for me and awakens as soon as I can see the dream world.

      I feel very blessed and lucky, and try not to take it for granite.










      Quote Originally Posted by SKA View Post
      I asked him if he ever had a Lucid Dream and explained what it was( "did you ever have a dream where you KNEW it was a dream?") and he replied: "yeah that sometimes happens"

      I've asked this question to alot of people. Many say they have had one or more but they seem so NOT-enthusiastic that I think they either completely misunderstood me or might have had some incidental very low level lucids that weren't at all impressive.

      My dad said: "yeah that sometimes happens" which sounds alot more like how I would describe my LD-frequency. Now that I think of it he might have the same spontanious Lucids I have. Spontaniously and somewhat frequently.
      I'm gunna have to ask him about it.


      I know EXACTLY what you mean Ska. I'd say roughly about 2/3rds of the people I begin to explain it to say "Yea I have those sometimes"

      However I highly doubt that they experience what we experience. I believe SOME people do it naturally, but I believe more that most people "think" they have them, or even possibly:

      Sometimes "know" that they are in a dream. But this is different than being "aware" that you are dreaming- Which is what produces the experience we feel.

      I remember thinking I had a few natural LD's through my life, and then I had my first true one and threw that idea right out the window.

      Interesting it would be however, if your dad really does have natural LDs- We could bring up the possible theorization that genes somehow relate to natural/succesful LDing?
      Just a random (Not so well thought out or researched) thought
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      Yeah well as a kid nI didn't have the insane high level lucids I had later when I got back into it. (I believe IO was 19 when I got back into it and registered an account on Dreamviews)

      But in my youth, allthough not fully lucid and without dreamcontrol, I did have some lucids that were quite amazing nevertheless:

      I would have alot of nightmares in my youth. I mean like more than 7 years ago. All my Lucids back then were a way to get OUT of a dream if it turned malicious. I remember one Dream in particulair where I was in the Metro and some guys were chasing me but they were in another wagon. When the metro stopped at a station (from reallife) I got out and so did those guys. It was very sunny and I felt paranoid. I somehow didn't come to the realisation but just thought: "I need to get out of this dream and wake up!" as if all along I half/half knew I was dreaming. Here's what I did.

      As those guys were approaching me on the metrostation I put both my indexfingers and thumbs into my eyes and opened up my (allready opened) eyes and I awoke. I had more nightmares like these but then usually I would have false awakenings instead. One occasion I was just floating off into a Dream. And from the great "Darkness" behind my closed eyelids formed a Dream: I noticed right away, feeling the atmosphere, it was going to be a bad bad dream and so I decided to withdraw from it back into the dark and enter another, hopefully more pleasant, dream.

      Pretty strange.
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      *raises hand*

      yep I'm a natural too. I've never really had to try induction techniques because I get spontaneous DILDs quite frequently.

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      over the ??? years of my i have had hundreds of lucid dreams, some of which i might lose lucidity or gain it half way through

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      Quote Originally Posted by Burns View Post
      *raises hand*

      yep I'm a natural too. I've never really had to try induction techniques because I get spontaneous DILDs quite frequently.
      Same with me. Have you tried WILDing yet? I haven't tried it, but I don't know how much being a natural would help. WILDing is way different from DILDs from what I read.

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      what is wilding?

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      Quote Originally Posted by Darkonius View Post
      what is wilding?
      WILD=Wake Initiated Lucid Dream.....
      as the the word says , you enter a dream/fall asleep being totally concious by concentrating yourself on something an relaxing your budy while your muscles shut down...

      its pretty cool, i have tried it like 3 times (i have felt the physical pre-transfer feelings) and it's sooooo cool.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Infraredkelp View Post
      Same with me. Have you tried WILDing yet? I haven't tried it, but I don't know how much being a natural would help. WILDing is way different from DILDs from what I read.
      nah, not really. I haven't found much reason to since I have LDs pretty regularly without trying... Just a different means to the same end, really.

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