I don't thinks it's that big a deal. It's just fun. Besides I'm already superior. I had bunches of lucid dreams and non of them have been extremely eye-opening. |
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I read something in a lucid dreaming book that really struck a chord: |
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I don't thinks it's that big a deal. It's just fun. Besides I'm already superior. I had bunches of lucid dreams and non of them have been extremely eye-opening. |
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"There are two types of people in this world, people who think there are two types of people, and people who don't."
I dont know a thing about dragonball but I think your right, I belive lucid dreaming can teach you alot about yourself and open you up to higher levels of consciousness if you want them too. |
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Combining the conscious minde and the subconscious mind directly as lucid dreaming does poses endless possibilities in my mind............ |
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Lucid Dream Count: N/A (3-7 a week average)
Current Goal(s): Master dream control/length, Master WILD'ing
Have no fear; For the power behind you is greater than any problem ahead of you.
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Hmm, i think that ascension is a bit out of the question, you could achieve a higher level of conscioussness, you ever had those moments where you feel asthough you are above everything, like in a lucid dream, i think being able to fully use that higher level of conscioussness in our waking lives would be a next step, we only have slight hints of it every so often and when we get these quick outbursts for like a couple of seconds it quickly fades, i do not know what this higher level could help us achieve, but as far as evolution goes on this topic i think its possible but until there is evidence to prove it i will remain skeptical. I'm not entirely sure tbh |
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Yes I know what you mean by those few brief moments of feeling above this world. I get taht sometimes during climatic parts of an epic movie, like 300. I've gotten it while listening to meditation tracks when I'm totally relaxed and aware, I've gotten it when I bust a plateau in the gym and sometimes it happens randomly, but it never lasts. I'm reading an e-book called "The Power of Now", in which the author claims he's achieved a constant state of this higher level of being. I'm wondering if lucid dreaming can help in that, my bet is it can, but first I gotta break my dry spell =S |
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a more clear explanation of what i'm thinking here is... |
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I really believe that the skills and benefits of lucid dreaming reach far deeper then we realize. Just how that may be employed in our lives is somewhat unclear but there are some known practical applications, such as building confidence, self-understanding, etc... |
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Lucid Dreaming is much more than just something fun to do!! I believe lucid dreaming is a tool that we have to learn how to use. The idea that lucid dreaming is going to propel humans into a new level of consciousness has not been absent from my mind. I've thought about that and I believe it's true. I also believe we stand to learn alot from entheogens which also change our level of awareness of the world around us. I've been reading a book by Dr. Fred Alan Wolfe which provides a detailed account of marriage between Dreaming and Quantum Physics. He actually suggests that the entire universe is dreaming and that everything around us is created through dream. It's verrry interesting and I know it sounds completely wild, but then again so is quantum mechanics! If you don't know anything about it I would suggest reading up on it. It can be very difficult to understand so I suggest starting by watching "What the Bleep Do We Know?" which is widely available on DVD and can also be downloaded fairly easily through torrent files. |
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"If quantum mechanics hasn't profoundly shocked you yet, you've yet to understand it."
-Niels Bohr
"If quantum mechanics hasn't profoundly shocked you yet, you've yet to understand it."
-Niels Bohr
Saiyan hood is a breeze...those that haven't tried to do it doesn't know what they're missing out on! |
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Night Stalkers fear me, Dream Walkers hate me, I am Rogue and proud of it!
Stalk me if you wish but you dance with death and there is no coming back once the music stops.
Pay the price
'We are not devision 6, we are the Dark Immortals, don't forget it!.
Well as far as using LDing for higher awareness, the Tibetans have been doing it for ages now. According to them, when you die you go into a state known as the bardo, which is a limbo between your last and next life. In this state you will eventually be assaulted by nightmarish forces that are an accumulation of your past karma. Most people generally freak out and jump between the two nearest mating humans (or cockroaches if your karma is especially bad), but if you are able to recognize it as a product as your own mind you can overcome it and move on to nirvana. |
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Yep, and soon, we'll go OVER 9000!!!!!!! |
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Ooooh yeah I love that feeling, had it a couple times in the first week or 2 of therapy on ritalin, some other random times, but now that I've started meditating more and discovered the Gateway Experience, I'm able to go into it pretty easily, not always, but most of the time after I've hit a deep meditation. Believe it or not, I talked to something that I think was my subconscious, I got it to let me get extremely drowsy and relaxed, and it happened several times and I was also able to control the strength of the relaxation etc. But yeah, if we were able to sustain this state forever, and find a constant synchronisation of the conscious and subconscious mind, the possibilities would be almost endless. Funny that I stumbled onto this thread after thinking the exact same things a couple days ago |
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LDs: loads and counting
LD Goal: A fine single malt scotch and a fine cuban cigar (accomplished, but need to do it more)
I'm so annoyed you used a Dragonball example. So annoyed. |
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