Ok, the other night i attempted to do WILD, this was my third attempt at a LD using WILD, i think i got to the hypnogogic imagry, however the trouble i've found is i can't tell if i've gotten SP or not. For me there is no rushing in the ears, and no real noticible difference from the slight numbness that comes with hypnogogic. I don't know if i actually achieved SP or not, however, eventually there was a daydream-like image, and i assumed that this was LD. It was not nearly as vivid as i expected it to be, in fact it was almost exactly like a daydream, in that i had almost complete dream control but the images weren't at all vivid. I'm wondering if i actually got a LD or not...