if LDing is real then what about. . .

**Sandform** · 07-26-2007 10:33 PM

I only meant that everyone wishes that psi and all these other things were real, but people who are logical wont believe its possible untill they see proof. Everyone is angry at eachother becuase no one can prove it one way or the other, well that is it say, when a person disproves it, someone says something along the lines of "oh that is only because you don't believe, or you can't do it for some other reason." Well how else is one to believe something to be true other than experiencing it? I tried the psi wheel thing when I was younger, and it seemed like it worked. But I think somewhere near the earlier posting of this thread someone said "do you realize how minute a disturbance around the object it takes to make a small piece of paper on a needle turn?" It would seem if it is real it wouldn't be very hard to prove to be so, and thus logical thinking people find the idea rediculous. (even in a seemingly empty of air chamber, even the smallest disturbance would make it spin.)

I tried to make that sound as least condescending as possible...but it is rather hard not to sound in such a way when making an arguement like the one that everyone has been making.

p.s. Were not keeping everyone ignorant. We've given plenty of information for you guys to start practicing and see results! We're not HOLDING anyone BACK. I don't understand where you come up with this stuff

I could say the same thing about making your arm stretch to the moon. I know it must be hard to understand for those on the psi side. But if I wrote a guide that had a whole bunch of steps on how to stretch your arm to the moon would you take it seriously? Even if I said, with an extreme authority that it was possible? No, I doubt that you would...you would say prove it, or no dice.

But I concede to you the right to believe whatever you want. I however will not change my mind untill someone proves it to me.

**magicdood** · 07-26-2007 10:52 PM

I see what you are saying. I can understand about the arm to the moon thing. That's how I felt. I can't stretch my arm to the moon! Then I practiced, and before I knew it, I was getting the freshest moon cheese.

And by the way, I haven't just spun a psi wheel. There's been more than that, hehe. But I also know that you guys have a right to believe whatever you want, and it's fine for you to do so. So again, I ask, what is the point of this argument. No one is budging, no one is changing there opinions so I would say that was 17 pages ruined haha. :p

**The Wig** · 07-27-2007 12:53 AM

Originally Posted by magicdood

I see what you are saying. I can understand about the arm to the moon thing. That's how I felt. I can't stretch my arm to the moon! Then I practiced, and before I knew it, I was getting the freshest moon cheese.

You're also going to be able to fly, David Copperfield. When is that gonna happen? That should be pretty easy to provide evidence for too.

**thegnome54** · 07-27-2007 01:28 AM

Originally Posted by magicdood

I see what you are saying. I can understand about the arm to the moon thing. That's how I felt. I can't stretch my arm to the moon! Then I practiced, and before I knew it, I was getting the freshest moon cheese.

Hey, come on! I'm not kidding! You said you could teach your friends telekinesis. Teach me. I want to learn. You should be able to teach me, right? Or at least explain your methods, what it feels like, etc.?

**magicdood** · 07-27-2007 03:36 AM

I could. Not to someone like you. But of course, I could.

Glad to see the mood has at least lightened up to sarcastic jokes. That's better than arguing. Yes, an improvement. :p

**The Wig** · 07-27-2007 06:36 AM

Originally Posted by magicdood

I could. Not to someone like you. But of course, I could.

Glad to see the mood has at least lightened up to sarcastic jokes. That's better than arguing. Yes, an improvement. :p

I kind of view sarcastic jokes as another form of arguing. The form of arguing where you know the other person will not listen to reason and you must resort to sarcasm. That form of arguing.

**magicdood** · 07-27-2007 06:42 AM

It's better than what we were doing. Would you give it that much?

**The Wig** · 07-27-2007 06:55 AM

Originally Posted by magicdood

It's better than what we were doing. Would you give it that much?

Sure.

**magicdood** · 07-27-2007 07:17 AM

Awesome.

**Kromoh** · 07-27-2007 07:33 AM

Or maybe being sarcastic is just pointing out how ridiculous you think the other person is.

And 5 posts from th esame part unrelated to the main topic of the discussion is pretty much dodging arguments in my point of view.

Maybe everyone is out of arguments?

**magicdood** · 07-27-2007 07:41 AM

Maybe after 17 pages we are sick of arguing. And oh btw, no one budged on their argument so maybe we came to our senses that it is pointless. At least, that's what I was thinking.

**Kromoh** · 07-27-2007 07:54 AM

nice reply to my argument

tha tproves you are smart

doesn't prove wolves like ice cream though

/me hates ice cream

**magicdood** · 07-27-2007 07:56 AM

Are you serious! Ice cream is awesome! Oh dang, I feel...an argument!

But wait, I am not stupid? Thank you. That is the first time I've been told that by someone who doesn't believe me. I can live with that. :p

Just for the record, I love ice cream. Discuss. lol.

**Kromoh** · 07-27-2007 08:04 AM

Actually, you are not like those: "OMG OMg you dumb rock head science is soooo wrong OMG OMG!!!11!1oneeleven!! Science is wrong because we cannot see air!!!! OMG oMG go learn something you idiot"

You might not be right, but you are definitely not stupid.

What is the word?? ah yeah, mature

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Back to topic:

EEEEW ice cream is sooo cold and tasteless and you make a holy mess when it eating it, and it melts and your hand gets piggy eew!!!1!oneeleven!!