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      Is the physiological change thats occuring really bad? I'm not completely familiar with the effects of insulin release, but I would think that if your body consistently does not get the food intake when you are thinking or even (dream eating) sweet food, then your body would be less likely to produce these chemicals because you have proven (conditioned?) to your body that the thought of sugar probably doesn't mean the real thing is coming?

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      When I get frequently lucid I'll probably not want to eat anything in my dreams because why bother when I can do it for real.

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      Quote Originally Posted by TheDGP View Post
      When I get frequently lucid I'll probably not want to eat anything in my dreams because why bother when I can do it for real.
      Like if you're on a diet.

      Talking Head--too much insulin is bad for you in a lot of ways. I don't know if you can sort of un-condition yourself like that. We need a volunteer to experiment on.

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      Quote Originally Posted by TalkingHead View Post
      Is the physiological change thats occuring really bad? I'm not completely familiar with the effects of insulin release, but I would think that if your body consistently does not get the food intake when you are thinking or even (dream eating) sweet food, then your body would be less likely to produce these chemicals because you have proven (conditioned?) to your body that the thought of sugar probably doesn't mean the real thing is coming?
      Well then you get screwed the other way. You'd condition your body to ignore taste signals that food is coming, and when food actually does come in waking life it ignores the warning signs and your bloodstream gets walloped with sugar and no insulin to regulate it, which means hyperglycemia and lipid oxidation out the wazoo.

      We could take this to ridiculous lengths, though, and say that we should never do anything in a lucid dream ever because it would condition our body to respond to something that's not actually there. Don't get hurt in a lucid or your body's immune system will send inflammatory repair signals to body parts that don't need them, don't fly in a lucid or you'll ramp up your sympathetic nervous system ("How exciting!") when it's not necessary. If we just have to have that slice of cake either way, I don't think there's any way that dream cake will ever actually be worse for you than the real thing, so maybe we should quit worrying and just stuff our imaginary faces already. We already sacrifice our sleep time and our angst-free lives in pursuit of the elusive LD, so already we're compromising our health in pursuit of pleasure.
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      Using your example of insulin: Your body does not increase insulin productivity just because of the presence of sugar, but because of the belief of sugar in the body and the command you subconsciously give yourself to increase insulin productivity. So to make it clear, you are in charge of every bodily action and this is the reason why healing meditation and hypnosis prove to work so well. Lucid Dreaming on the other hand, I'm not sure about. When you are lucid, you are aware of a false reality and because of this, so is your subconscious. So if your subconscious is aware of a false reality, wouldnt it be aware that the sugar entering your body is not real, therefor it does not need to increase insulin?

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      another case of mind > matter. Don't dream Fat dreams cuz you'll get Fat!
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      Well what if you took an " Increase matabolism x10 pill!" lol......i need that :0

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      sweetshoes (like your name!), even artificial sweetener can cause an insulin response.

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      if this was the case..there are some pretty cool possibilities..the one that comes to mind

      taking a pill to eliminate 'taste' first of course....

      -eat a heap of chilli's (endorphin rush!)

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