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      Paradoxical question...

      There was a story about a chinese that had a dream. In his dream he was a butterfly. When he was awaken he said:

      'I was a butterfly in my dream.'

      The question he asked was:

      'Am i a human that saw himself as a butterfly in a dream? Or am i a butterfly seeing itself as a human in a dream?'
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      That's allright, I am OK. This happens every single day. It's all the same but i am not blind!

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      That's a question right out of Tibbetan Buddist. I guess you are both.

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      Well..I know this might sound like a stupid theory but..I think hes a human dreaming he is a butterfly,because I dont think butterflies dream,lol

      EDIT: Actually do they even sleep beheheheh,sorry Im being lame but really..butterflies do not have the ability to think or reason(mabey very very little,but its more instinct) so if a butterfly would in some strange way be able to dream and dream he was human would he suddenly become intelligent and know the way of human life? lol..lame
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      A butterfly might have said:

      Well..I know this might sound like a stupid theory but..I think its a butterfly dreaming he is a human,because I dont think humans dream,lol

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      That's allright, I am OK. This happens every single day. It's all the same but i am not blind!

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      that is just to stupid for me to comment on. it's just like that "What is the sound of one hand clapping?" that's the stupidest thing I ever heard. one hand can't clap, because clapping is "to strike the palms of the hands together with a sudden explosive sound, as in applauding." these "riddles" probably came from some old guy who got bored and made up a bunch of crap to make people think he's smart, because they are to stupid to realise that there is no point wasting time on these "riddles".


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      Originally posted by Paperdoll EP
      that is just to stupid for me to comment on. it's just like that \"What is the sound of one hand clapping?\" that's the stupidest thing I ever heard. one hand can't clap, because clapping is \"to strike the palms of the hands together with a sudden explosive sound, as in applauding.\" these \"riddles\" probably came from some old guy who got bored and made up a bunch of crap to make people think he's smart, because they are to stupid to realise that there is no point wasting time on these \"riddles\".
      Geez, how about getting a little understanding of Zen and the purpose of these stories before you criticize??

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      hmm? ok, I'm open. shoot.


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      ooh ooh i love riddles
      "I thought what I'd do was pretend I was one of those deaf-mutes..."

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      Jeez... the sound of one hand clapping huh? Did you ever see the simpsons when Homer demonstrated the sound of that? He just brought his fingers to his palm again and again... it was funny...

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      Originally posted by wasup
      Jeez... the sound of one hand clapping huh? Did you ever see the simpsons when Homer demonstrated the sound of that? He just brought his fingers to his palm again and again... it was funny...
      No no, it was Bart! But for reminding me of such a classic moment I'll let you off.
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      I am a butterfly, and not at the same time, tao

      Beings do not have to be able to reason in order to dream

      the smallest and most insignifigant in life are often the most important in the 'dream world'

      i hope one day you all get to see the massive craziness embodied in a single insect when on hightened perception hehehe the smallest creatures can wield ultimate power when one is in the right situation

      so...I think that not only are you a butterfly, we all are, and everything else

      that is what is meant by reincarnation independent origionation

      we are all connected indefinitly, everything on this earth is sooo close to you us we are all the same interconnected

      human hubris can create the illusion, the ultimate egocentric ethnocentricity but we are all the bugs

      we depend on them, they depend on us, without this ecosystem, none of us would exist at all we do not die, we recycle we are eachother


      The type of magic, or lucid dream experienced is 'transmutation'
      an extrememly powerful and potent form of magic, it's way cool, try to achieve it! wooot!
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      wow what a bunch of incoherent crap.


      Ignorant bliss is an oxymoron; but so is miserable truth.

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      Re: I am a butterfly, and not at the same time, tao

      Originally posted by Blulanou42

      The type of magic, or lucid dream experienced is 'transmutation'
      an extrememly powerful and potent form of magic, it's way cool, try to achieve it! wooot!
      I've just started looking into this. Was able to make modifications to my human form this weekend. Think I will stick with that for a few more weeks before attempting anything as radical as a butterfly!
      you must be the change you wish to see in the world...
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