Thread: Misc WILD questions...

Morning all,

I've been browsing DV for quite a number of weeks now, although it was this topic has urged me to register and take part, and find more out about LD'ing in general - perhaps trying it. I've previously tried just the DILD technique, but often or not I get a bit annoyed at writing down my dreams. I often remember them extremley well and before I've finished writing, I've already got a novel for a single nights dreaming! So I've never got to the stage of having a LD.

It seems that the technique described on that page is wild - or at least a variation of it? But, I'm struggling to understand the stages involved:

1) You don't move at all.
2) Eventually you experience sleep paralysis - the wave coming over you etc...
3) Soon after, you start to experience flashing colours, or strange shapes and sounds.

- From what I've read though, sometimes the last two stages don't always occur, in which case how do you know if you can become lucid?

- How do you actually become lucid after the 3 stages?

- If you enter a lucid dream through this technique it is still easy to forget the lucid dream? I.e. should a dream diary still be built up?

- When entering an LD with this method, do I still have to do reality checks?

- I've tried searching, but haven't got any results, but what are the possibilities for problem solving in a lucid dream?

- Is it possible to have one very long lucid dream for the whole night, rather than several short ones, or at least continue the lucid dream from one session to another?

Thanks very much!
FF.

this might answer some of your questions, and down near the bottom is alot of links that should help you out http://dreamviews.com/community/showthread.php?t=41627

hope this helps!

- From what I've read though, sometimes the last two stages don't always occur, in which case how do you know if you can become lucid?

Well, no matter what, as you're entering the REM sleep state, you're body will undergo sleep paralysis. As for flashing colors, shapes, and sounds, this is typically known as HI, or hypnagogic imagery. Not everyone experiences this, however. But, you don't necessarily need to experience HI to know if you can become lucid. Usually, there is a very distinct sinking feeling or "shift" associated with entering the dream state, at which point, you can become lucid. I personally never experience HI, but I feel the "shift" and I know I'm lucid, so I just walk out of my bed and a dreamscene appears.

- How do you actually become lucid after the 3 stages?

Well after you've successfully WILDed, you are technically lucid. After the stages, it is up to you to where you want to take it from there.

- If you enter a lucid dream through this technique it is still easy to forget the lucid dream? I.e. should a dream diary still be built up?

A dream journal should always be kept to ensure good dream recall. However, I don't suppose recalling a dream after using the WILD technique would be any different from trying to recall a lucid dream induced by any other method. However, if you drift off into a deeper stage of sleep after the lucid dream ends instead of just waking up, it will be more difficult to remember the dream, no matter what technique you used to get there in the first place.

- When entering an LD with this method, do I still have to do reality checks?

Well, sometimes yes and sometimes no. Usually you will be certain that you are dreaming, and therefore will not have to do a reality check. However, it is a good idea to perform one just in case, along with some dream stabilization techniques to get you off to a good start.

- I've tried searching, but haven't got any results, but what are the possibilities for problem solving in a lucid dream?

I would suggest you read Exploring the World of Lucid Dreaming by Stephen LaBerge, as he illustrates a variety of techniques for problem solving, in fact, an entire chapter of the book is dedicated to the subject.

- Is it possible to have one very long lucid dream for the whole night, rather than several short ones, or at least continue the lucid dream from one session to another?

It is generally not possible to have one long lucid dream the entire night because you dream during your REM sleep period, which occurs only a few times during the night. However, it is quite possible to experience a lucid dream that feels as if it has lasted for the entire night, or even longer. As for continuing lucid dreams, many have reported that it is possible. Some people have even claimed to have lived second lives in their dreams.

Thank you both very much...

so I just walk out of my bed and a dreamscene appears.

I'm quite ignorant about this sort of thing, but this seems familiar to an OBE (I'm not meaning the OBE that is the Order Of The British Empire )? I notice the FAQ pointed to by freefire mentions that they are very similar, but in what way are they different? As I really don't want to be playing with OBE's? Is there anyway to accidently have an OBE when trying to get into a lucid dream?

I would suggest you read Exploring the World of Lucid Dreaming by Stephen LaBerge, as he illustrates a variety of techniques for problem solving, in fact, an entire chapter of the book is dedicated to the subject.

Ordering as we speak...

Thank you.

Is there anyway to accidently have an OBE when trying to get into a lucid dream?

in my opinion its impossible. You arent doing anything out of the normal when you WILD. All a WILD is, is falling asleep conscious. Whatever happens in a WILD happens every night. The only difference is you are conscious. Some people get confused and think its an OBE because WILDs sometimes start with a false awakening in a room that that looks exactly the same as in real life. Dreaming is all in you head. so even if you think you see yourself on you bed, its all in your head.

The things you experience in WILD happen every night. So there is no need to fear them.

Some people get confused and think its an OBE because WILDs sometimes start with a false awakening in a room that that looks exactly the same as in real life.

It was Metaphyz1k's description of 'walking out of my bed' or I've seen some saying similar things like 'roll my dream body out of my real body' etc... that were giving me the heebie jeebies...

Dreaming is all in you head. so even if you think you see yourself on you bed, its all in your head. The things you experience in WILD happen every night. So there is no need to fear them.

That's put my mind at rest greatly... Thanks for your time.