Thread: If waking life is a dream, how could we really wake up?

if this is real then dreaming is real too... you get real feelings and real perceptions in dreams... you think in dreams therefor you are in dreams. but where are you really? if you can be in a foreign land inside your head in a dream it is very possible the same thing is happening in waking life. A human cell has consciousness and yet it is part of a larger body... who is to say we arnt the same way?

Interesting! It's like how both planets circle stars and electrons circle atoms. And the stars circle the galactic centre..etc etc..
It makes sense when you think about it.

Originally Posted by alfy984

if this is real then dreaming is real too... you get real feelings and real perceptions in dreams... you think in dreams therefor you are in dreams. but where are you really? if you can be in a foreign land inside your head in a dream it is very possible the same thing is happening in waking life. A human cell has consciousness and yet it is part of a larger body... who is to say we arnt the same way?

SynapseSnap, I think I really agree with you overall. I guess I feel that the understanding of causality is more or less innate. Because of this, for many things people have, through history, drawn correct conclusions about the existence of the forces that tie things together (whether their explanations were accurate or not). For anything to exist, it must have come into being, and therefore must have a cause. Because of this I might have ignored one side of your point altogether.

I guess my only issue is that I do not believe everything is a mesh of connected things (you put it better, but I'm not going back to check now). At some level I believe everything originated from one event, but that it is inconceivable and unexplainable as of yet. Someone cast a die, and we are watching it unfold, so it is all related, but by now everything has branched out and is very much unconnected for all intents and purposes.

I just think people draw connections between things that are totally unrelated. They feel an effect, or observe some phenomenon and attribute it to something that in reality had only a loose association. It's easier to see this when I am constantly faced with media hocking phony wares and retarded ideas, and people eating it up. I'm just a pessimist and believe most people are either stupid, full of shit, or fucking nuts (if anyone gets the reference bless you).

edit/ man i hope any of that makes sense, and as for your example, i don't think it holds weight as in that situation one runs the risk of being hurt, but as far as seeking knowledge and understanding of our world, you can get by without