why dont many people lucid dream?

[antiflag]

i dont know anyone at my school that does

[Luminous]

I have no idea... Just wanted to add that I actually have a few lucid dreaming friends.

[Marvo]

I don't know anybody who practices, though a friend of mine did get a lucid dream, a few weeks after I told him about the thing.

[QwinsepiaSquared]

So few people know about it, and some that do pass it off as "freaky new age" stuff. I don't know any LDers besides the ones I met here on DV. Edit: <muahahahaha 666

[TripleX223]

I read lucid books in my school, and thre liek What's lucid dreaming? I dotn think anyone does it besides me.. my two best friends have lded before though, so im not completly lost.

[Redrivertears]

Hey there, I think the reason why not so many people (in our culture!) Lucid Dream, is simply because we are taught not to. Quite a few children, you'll find, if you ask them about lucid dreaming, will find the phenomenon recognisable. But we're taught, either directly, or indirectly, not to put value to our dreams. We live in a society where dreams are usually ignored, a waste of time, where dreams 'aren't real', or 'fake', etc etc. Consequently, like anything where we don't pay attention, we lose the ability to dream. Its like learning a language, if you stop speaking it for long enough, you'll eventually find that you can't speak it fluently anymore after a while, the words don't come spontaniously anymore. The key to lucid dreaming, in my opinion, is for the dreamer to learn to pay attention and value his dreams again. Basically reverse the decade long process he's been undergoing. Now in some cultures, dreams are given a much higher intrinsic value. They're given a place in people's lives. Its no wonder Tibetan Dream Yogi have been able to do things with dreams that we can only "dream" off (pardon the pun). Just like them, if we're serious about lucid dreaming, we have to give dreams a place in our lives again. Just my 2 cents, -Redrivertears-

[Spamtek]

^^ I really hate the "because society teaches us not to" viewpoint; lucid dreaming is so rare in the general public because it's an honest-to-god abnormal state of mind to be in and difficult to cultivate even for people who care a lot about their dreams. Just "valuing your dreams" is not going to be enough for the average human being which is why we have all these techniques to help trick ourselves into the body asleep, mind awake state we need to become lucid. Conversely a minority of people couldn't care less about their dreams but become lucid anyways all the time because they're the genetic mutants with an aberrant brain chemistry that lets that happen.

[a_dreamer]

theres my friend's brother who is 25 and hes been LDing for 5 years. everyweek. and theres my brother who has had lucids from time to time and he knows what they are. and one of myfirends has over time about 20 hours of lucid dream time from different dreams. theres a couple who know what it is.

[NewDreamer]

^^ I really hate the "because society teaches us not to" viewpoint; lucid dreaming is so rare in the general public because it's an honest-to-god abnormal state of mind. Well perhaps its so rare in our "Society" because we as a people dont put much emphasis or thoughts into our dreams, as much as other cultures, who integrate their dreams into their very lives. This is generally why they would have better dream recall, dream control, lucids...etc.. And about the abnormal state of mind, I will give you that one, yes it is not the norm in our society to Lucid Dream , so yes abnormal, But much of our state of mind is made by the Society we live in, so hence back to what we are taught and values instilled upon us by our society.. ^^ to be in and difficult to cultivate even for people who care a lot about their dreams. Just "valuing your dreams" is not going to be enough for the average human being which is why we have all these techniques to help trick ourselves into the body asleep, mind awake state we need to become lucid. . Have you done studies on the cause and effect of peoples own values that they place upon their dreams? And what about this average human being? What can you tell me about him/her? I agree that these techniques are great tools for inducing lucid dreams, but actually a lot of people dont need them or use them, Just as any tool, when you are finished with it, you can put it away.. ^^ Conversely a minority of people couldn't care less about their dreams but become lucid anyways all the time because they're the genetic mutants with an aberrant brain chemistry that lets that happen. Lol... Honestly do you put any close examination into the things you say? Last time I checked, I didn't realise that having Lucid Dreams all the time made us genetic mutants with an aberrant brain chemistry. I will really have to look into this

[NewDreamer]

[QUOTE=Spamtek;660680 genetic mutants with an aberrant brain chemistry .[/QUOTE] Please walk me through this one k? Starting with one word at a time

[lagunagirl]

they're the genetic mutants with an aberrant brain chemistry that lets that happen.

[Oros]

i dont know anyone at my school that does I talked about it in my class when i should talk about what i would like to talk about for 3 mins, and i choose LD. no one ever heard of it. *i also listen to anti-flag*

[antiflag]

I talked about it in my class when i should talk about what i would like to talk about for 3 mins, and i choose LD. no one ever heard of it. *i also listen to anti-flag* awesome...

[antiflag]

it would be pretty cool if alot more people lucid dreamed. my friend was trying to LD and his grama read his dream journal and she said that it was bad lol

[Xox]

Most of my friends are really skeptic when I tell them about LDing. Even when I pull out a psychology textbook. When they do believe me, they never want to get involved. They think it would be realy cool to control your dreams, but wouldn't want to put all the work in. Too bad for them I say.

[suttsman]

Most of my friends are really skeptic when I tell them about LDing. Even when I pull out a psychology textbook. When they do believe me, they never want to get involved. They think it would be realy cool to control your dreams, but wouldn't want to put all the work in. Too bad for them I say. Yeah, same case here. (except I rarely have a psychology book handy ;P) Half of my friends don't believe me, saying that it's impossible to know when you're dreaming, and half believe me, but don't want to try it, like "what's the point", etc. Well that's 30 years of their life they're going to waste in bed doing nothing!

[antiflag]

Most of my friends are really skeptic when I tell them about LDing. Even when I pull out a psychology textbook. When they do believe me, they never want to get involved. They think it would be realy cool to control your dreams, but wouldn't want to put all the work in. Too bad for them I say. ...yeah people just don't give it a chance

[jereb]

i dont know anyone at my school that does Alot of people think it doesn't exist, and some think it is evil (though very few). People are always afraid of what they don't know or understand (I think I just quoted a famous person). Alot of people born in the most recent generation are far more open-minded than we were centuries, or even decades ago. Hope it answers your question.

[lagunagirl]

some think it is evil (though very few) yeah I told my mom about it and she thought it seemed evil until I actually explained it to her in better detail. I dont see how someone could think of it as evil.

[warock]

Dunno.. tried to convince my friends they were real. But their so sceptical about it

[hootman]

Because it doesn't exist and its evil. Duh.

[27]

Necro-ing old threads is frowned apon, hootman. But as long as it's here, I think alot more people practice it than you think. In my psychology class last year we talked about lucid dreaming, which not only gave me a chance to plug DV but also let me find out that a kid I'd known for years was a lucid dreamer and I had no idea.