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      Who invented WILD?

      Does anyone know the person who came up with the concept of WILD and what was the date they coined the phrase Wake Induced Lucid Dreams?

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      i have no idea but maybe wikipedia knows... wiki knows everything
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      Stephen Le Berge I believe

      And would guess at late 80's

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      Quote Originally Posted by Adam View Post
      Stephen Le Berge I believe

      And would guess at late 80's
      Not strictly true. LaBerge coined the term "WILD" in 1986, but I first read about the technique in early Castaneda books of the late 60s/early 70s. He called it "Becoming aware of falling asleep.." I would hazard a guess that's where LaBerge got it from.

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      WILD originator

      Adam,

      Are you 100% sure it was Dr. Stephen LaBerge? I heard of Castenada at some point.

      It would great if you could do some research and confirm for me.

      I did a search on the Internet but found nothing.

      Thanks.

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      The term WILD was definitely coined by LaBerge. We have him to blame for "ILD" :-). It looks like he first used it in the 1986 book, "Lucid Dreaming".

      It doesn't surprise me to hear that others came up with it earlier, though it's interesting that Casteneda had - I'd written him off as a useless fraud.
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      Dr. Stephen LaBerge it is then. Thanks.

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      I invented Wild

      I kid...

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      Tibetan Monks have been practicing sleep and dream yoga for millenium. A practitioner of these skills can apparently maintain awareness even during deep sleep. So while they might not call this phenomenon a WILD, I am sure they realized this possibility several 1000 years ago.

      That beats Laberge.
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      All of those people in the past decade only expressed what's been known for thousands of years. Especially Tibetan Monks have been practicing this stuff for long before anyone ever thought about calling it "WILD". The technique of WILDing is long known to man, while the expression of it came up somewhen in the passed 50 years. Impossible to tell which single person invented it.
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      i know the question was "who invented WILD"... but i thought i would add a quote or two from an excellent resource book, Alternate Realities written by Leonard George, Ph.D. (1995) specifically from the lucid dreaming entry.

      note, here i am only posting 2 sections, and not the whole entry, which spans 2 pages. if anyone is interested in it, i will see what i can do.

      "Lucid dreams have been a topic of intense interest amount many non-western cultures. In modern times, lucid dreaming was first noted in 1913 by Van Eeden, who coined the term."

      "For thousands of years, lucid dreams have been deliberately sought. The fourth century yoga Sutras of Patanjali recommended "witnessing the process of dreaming." Among the classical Tibetian meditation practices called the Six Yogas of Naropa are exercises for attaining realization in dreams. In the 12th century, the Sufi master Ibn el-Arabi taught that "a person must control his thoughts in a dream..." The Senoi of Malaysia have long prized lucid dream skills and teach them to their children for defense against nightmares."

      for further reading lists, A. Faraday; C. Green; Laberge and Gackenback; Malamud; Van Eeden.
      Thanks to all for sharing your knowledge, experience and even your inquiries regarding LDs!!!

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      no way castaneda is useless fraud... his books make too much sense...
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