Thread: foolproof Instant WILD anytime ...

Originally Posted by Amelaclya

After reading the wikipedia article about Salvia, it sounds much safer.

I might debate that. The psychological damage thing is really only a worry if you have a history in your family, or some other risk factors, but I'd say there is way more potential to have a bad trip with Salvia. I have seen people have bad trips on LSD (had one myself) and we weren't permanently scarred (it didn't stop me from doing it again either). I have just seen way more people freak out, and actually need to be restrained on Salvia than on LSD. Set and setting, and other factors you control help make sure an LSD trip goes well, but Salvia is way too unpredictable to really be in control of. Several people I know have been scared away from doing Salvia again from a bad trip.

Either way, if you're gonna do it, you're gonna do it, just be safe (maybe start with at a 10x extraction), be sitting down (seriously), and have a sitter. Read up on Erowid, (experiences section in particular) some more before you jump in too. Too many uninformed people who want to do Salvia and put it on youtube and shit, and there are too many inaccurate descriptions out there, be smart about it (not saying you aren't), have a good time.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe Amelaclya was being sarcastic

I thought Salvia was made illegal in the U.S. Where do you live? I could be wrong, I just remember hearing that in passing.
The major difference, however, between a dream and a hallucination of any kind is that in a dream you experience no consequences for your actions. It is this idea that draws many people to lucid dreaming. While if you are just tripping off a drug, you may jump out a window and think you can fly and wind up dead.

it is legal in the everywhere in the US except Louisiana. And i believe you cant ship it to certain states.

there has never been a single reported death from Salvia. Salvia is safe if you know what you are doing. Salvia is active in pure form in as little as 100 micrograms(1 mcg is 1 millionth of a gram) making it the most potent psychoactive substance known to man. And it has to be treated respect and love. Treat Salvia like its a

I didnt mean to say it should be used by everyone to do LDs. I'm just saying the effects are strikingly similar to entering a dream via WILD. If you have never tried salvia then there is no way you could know.

That sounds like a really bad idea, and justifying it by saying psychoactive substances are produced naturally by our own body is a faulty argument. Do you know whats also produced by our body? Poop. That doesn't mean we should eat poop.

Poop is not released in your brain during rem sleep and it is a waste biproduct of digestion. The psychoactive chemical DMT is produced in the pineal gland in the brain and is released during rem sleep. I dont think that is a coincidence.

I thought Salvia was made illegal in the U.S. Where do you live? I could be wrong, I just remember hearing that in passing.
The major difference, however, between a dream and a hallucination of any kind is that in a dream you experience no consequences for your actions. It is this idea that draws many people to lucid dreaming. While if you are just tripping off a drug, you may jump out a window and think you can fly and wind up dead.

No one has every died from jumping out of a window on salvia. It may have happened once or twice in the seventies with LSD. The reason people act out what they see is because they believe what they are seeing is real, just in a dream when are not aware you are dreaming. The difference is with salvia people look at their surroundings and see things totally different and if they bump into things or fall down it turns the experience into a bad one. You just have to relax and lay down or something and listen to music.

People who do LSD freak out on Salvia -_-, let alone someone who has never done a psychedelic drug before. Bad advice to be telling people to try it if they aren't into that type of thing -_-.

Tho it is an experience.

Yes please do not do this unless you are 100% sure you want to try and you have read this http://www.sagewisdom.org/usersguide.html. Also i would go to www.erowid.org and read as many experiences as you can.

Oh, and I forgot to mention, that the only thing it did to me, was make me laugh so hard, and so long, it started to hurt my face! lol. If you go on youtube, like some one else mentioned, you can see some of the affects.

Reminder: Breakthrough with salvia can be extremely difficult to reach without using pure salvinorin crystals from a freebase pipe.

Ethnogarden sells the crystals, your local head shop probably has a free base pipe.

Don't think you are going to breakthrough with 20x,50x,100x,etc.. most people typically do not.

Once you've broken through it can be nearly identical to an LD, I've had false awakenings too.

During my most recent experience, I took an enormous hit of crystal and was suddenly fully lucid on top of a huge cliff overlooking a modern type city, but it was very psychedelic looking, the sky was made of something similar to lava, so I stared at it for a few minutes. Behind me was an enormous pine forest, and the cool breeze kept bringing gusts of intoxicating pine aroma. My salvia breakthroughs are usually much shorter than my actual LDs, so I usually just sit and enjoy the scenery, rather than interact.