Thread: Lucid dreaming is a form of astral projection ?

I am not new to LD but very new to the whole idea of it all. I have been reading up on it and came across this site on Qabbala and found LD described as a stage of astral projection.

http://www.orderofthewhitelion.com/Q...rojection.html

Has anyone else heard of this ? Does this mean if we practice enough we can get to a stage where we can project at will while awake and fully concious ?

I know that some people believe that astral projections and lucid dreams are the same. Personally, I think they are two different things.

My experience is that the two are closely related and different mostly by the way we use our brain to interpret the experience.

If I float above my body (consciously with full control and memory of this reality) and see my room and then go to see my sister 2200 miles away and see her it is normally regarded as an Astral Projection or OOBE.

If I float into another dimension (anything other than this collective dream/reality) and see myself there (consciously with full control and memory of this reality) and do things with those friends then it might be called a Lucid Dream.

Some people call that a big difference and I don't.

BlessU
Sam

Lucid dreaming, meditation and astral projection are all very closely related and I think they are all some way to experience the same new world, but then again I don't know much about astral projection and OOBEs..

from what i understand from person experience is that astral projection and lucid dreaming differ in what path you take after sleep paralysis. for me, after i'm paralized if i dont focus on having an ld then i just stay around outside of my body, but havent explored much more after that mostly due to fear, but i would assume that u could astral project from that state instead of entering a lucid dream, but thats just a thought

Thank you very much everyone for your thoughts.

I LD quite frequently. I just had one early this morning. I woke up at 6 am with a dream where I was going to a school fair. Instead of getting up, I went back into the dream and had LD until I actually woke up at 8 am. It was fun as I was going around the fair ( It was big ) and playing at each and every stall.

However, I have not had a LD where I would look back and see my body sleeping in bed. Is this achievable ? To be concious of yourself outside of your physical body voluntarily? I guess its like OBE but as I understand it OBE is mostly involuntary. Am I wrong here ?

I have read how monks and high priests sit in meditation then they astral profect their " soul " to wherever they want to go, across various dimensions to do different deeds. Is this achievable via LD ?