i was reading this tutorial http://www.dreamviews.com/community/...ead.php?t=9806

and in the relaxation phase, i was wondering about it,

do you just lay there relaxed, and pretend you are sleeping, but just repeat

"i will stay awake" and " i am going into a lucid dream" over and over? and eventually something happens?

because i tried it last night and nothing was happening so i gave up. but it was only for about 15-20 minutes. should i wait longer than that?