WILD question

[wildcat]

Hi, something doesn`t quite add up. in your sleep cycle, the stage when you dream is the rem right?. now, its not the first stage in the cycle (if i`m wrong please correct me). so, when you wild, does something in this cycle change?? you go directly to rem? because if not, how can you say its a lucid dream (or dream at all?) ?

[Snowy Egypt]

Seeker's Five Phases of WILD should answer your question. When you WILD, there are certain things (Seeker's tutorial points them out) that help you identify when you are starting to transition into an LD. No, the REM cycle doesn't change, rather, you're tricking your body into falling asleep so your conscious self can go straight into the REM cycle, and straight into the dream, already lucid. Does this help at all?

[Frishert]

Actually, that's what a WBTB (Wake, Back to Bed) is for. Normally, when people attempt a WILD, they first take 6 to 7,5 hours of sleep, wake, and then try to WILD. That's because the length of your REM periods increases, and the length of the other periods decreases over the night, thus it's easier to enter your REM directly if you've slept a bit. Hope that helped, / Stenny

[wildcat]

thanks for the help

[wildcat]

Tried to WILD "by the book" for the 1st time. started to feel the SP and then i got so excited that it stopped.. so i`m relaxing again, and it comes again and then i become excited and it stopps!!! so i gave up and went to sleep (theres work in the morning...) any suggestions?

[flamboduck]

Tried to WILD "by the book" for the 1st time. started to feel the SP and then i got so excited that it stopped.. so i`m relaxing again, and it comes again and then i become excited and it stopps!!! so i gave up and went to sleep (theres work in the morning...) any suggestions? Yeah, it's crazy how you can feel sp coming on. I had that happen to me like 3 times last night. I was laying there, and felt it coming on, but because I was excited, I snapped out of it. I wanted to keep trying, but it was getting late, and, like you, I had to work in the morning

[Yoricko]

Tried to WILD "by the book" for the 1st time. started to feel the SP and then i got so excited that it stopped.. so i`m relaxing again, and it comes again and then i become excited and it stopps!!! so i gave up and went to sleep (theres work in the morning...) any suggestions? Unfair, I tried WILDing for about 4-5 times but all I felt is numbness and tickles.

[AlexLou]

Isn't it also possible to dream while not in REM? Dreams in REM are just much more vivid making an LD more likely.

[RBee]

Hi, something doesn`t quite add up. in your sleep cycle, the stage when you dream is the rem right?. now, its not the first stage in the cycle (if i`m wrong please correct me). so, when you wild, does something in this cycle change?? you go directly to rem? because if not, how can you say its a lucid dream (or dream at all?) ? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rapid_eye_movement_sleep humans usually experience about 4 or 5 periods of REM sleep; they are quite short at the beginning of the night and longer toward the end. You're thinking of WBTB. WILD can be done as a nap at any time. WBTB simply gives you an opportunity to lucidify those longer REM periods at the end of the sleep cycle making it worth the trouble.