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      States of lucidity

      It is possible to:
      *Dream with no conciousness or awareness
      *Be fully concious but not aware you're dreaming (false awakenings, e.g.)
      *Aware you're dreaming but not fully concious
      *Be fully concious and fully aware you're dreaming

      How would you classify each?

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      I would probably consider the first two to be non-lucid, and the other two to be different levels of lucidity.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Spencerical View Post
      It is possible to:
      *Dream with no conciousness or awareness
      *Be fully concious but not aware you're dreaming (false awakenings, e.g.)
      *Aware you're dreaming but not fully concious
      *Be fully concious and fully aware you're dreaming

      How would you classify each?
      I don't think it's possible to have no consciousness . . . although you may have no awareness of self.

      I do think it's possible to be as highly conscious in a non-lucid as in a lucid. Some of the moments before becoming lucid in DILDs come to mind. But can you really classify any moment when you're asleep as being fully conscious?

      And most people have lucids in which they don't actually think too clearly. So, yes you can be lucid but not really conscious.

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      the first is like a normal dream,the second like you said is a false awakening,third is a half lucid state ,and the fourth is being lucid.
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      Thank you everyone! You seem to have answered my questions well.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Spencerical View Post
      It is possible to:
      *Dream with no conciousness or awareness
      *Be fully concious but not aware you're dreaming (false awakenings, e.g.)
      *Aware you're dreaming but not fully concious
      *Be fully concious and fully aware you're dreaming

      How would you classify each?
      1) Yes, whether you remember it or not everyone has many dreams every night during the REM stages. REM stage is required to live, if you are sleep deprived your body will start to skip the stages of deep sleep so it gets more REM. That is why polyphasic sleeping works for inducing constant REM sleep.
      2) Depending on your definition I see the words conscious, aware, and lucid as being identical.
      3) You can be conscious/aware without being fully conscious/aware, lucidity has countless degrees, its relative.
      4) I can't use fully to describe awareness because its relative, you can't know if there is a great degree of awareness than what you are experiencing until you've experienced it.
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