Creating your own place in your LD world

[Gagino]

This is something Ive been trying to do for some time. I know it CAN be done, a lot of people do it including my friend (he has his own harem, btw ). You know, some building, cave, etc., where you would store everything you need during LDs. Maybe some experimenting tools, like mirrors and so on. So first, I imagined how it should look from the outside. Then when I got a lucid dream, I created it. However, it kept changing every LD. In time, I managed to stabilize the exterior. So I went on to create the interior. The problem is, everytime I enter, I feel this strong feeling of horror. And when I say strong I mean REALLY strong. I mean, I love nightmares, scary dreams, I even like to be scared in real life. I dare say that nothing in LDs can really scare me. Except this. I have never seen the "thing" that causes it. I can always enter only for a couple of seconds and only a few steps from the main door. Then I start feeling "it" closing in. Again, I have never seen it, but the fear is so strong, that I just have to run away screaming. Its like I enter that building and the "thing" wants to let me know, that it is its territory and I have nothing to do in there. Which disturbs me, as LDs are mine and mine only, its my world. So I dont fully understand what could possibly do this, what part of my subconscious mind. Whats the reason. Has anyone ever experienced something like this?

[rose_red]

Though I've never personally experienced what you are describing, you are farther along the road on this project than am I. Based on what you are telling me, and if it were me that it was happening to, what I would do would be create a dream character to back you up and then go in and confront 'it'. It might be a bit easier if you have a friend to back you up, so that's why I recommend you create a DC as backup. Along those lines, it becomes easier if you call it out and it therefore becomes a visible enemy. You could read more into creating DCs in Talon's CALD topic on ld4all (link in my signature).

[Gagino]

I did this. Twice. He ran away too. Twice.

[drewmandan]

I prefer to just use my house as a base of operations. I know it inside and out, so I don't have to devote the brain power to conjuring a completely new place.

[Dizko]

This is something Ive been trying to do for some time. I know it CAN be done, a lot of people do it including my friend (he has his own harem, btw ). You know, some building, cave, etc., where you would store everything you need during LDs. Maybe some experimenting tools, like mirrors and so on. So first, I imagined how it should look from the outside. Then when I got a lucid dream, I created it. However, it kept changing every LD. In time, I managed to stabilize the exterior. So I went on to create the interior. The problem is, everytime I enter, I feel this strong feeling of horror. And when I say strong I mean REALLY strong. I mean, I love nightmares, scary dreams, I even like to be scared in real life. I dare say that nothing in LDs can really scare me. Except this. I have never seen the "thing" that causes it. I can always enter only for a couple of seconds and only a few steps from the main door. Then I start feeling "it" closing in. Again, I have never seen it, but the fear is so strong, that I just have to run away screaming. Its like I enter that building and the "thing" wants to let me know, that it is its territory and I have nothing to do in there. Which disturbs me, as LDs are mine and mine only, its my world. So I dont fully understand what could possibly do this, what part of my subconscious mind. Whats the reason. Has anyone ever experienced something like this? Next time. Just stand there and confront it. Conjuring a DC to use as a friend is not something i would do. I feel that this places too much value on a dream character, which is just a mere thought, and in doing this you will also place high value on the less desirable aspects of your dreams.

[Richnfg]

Hmmm, sounds interesting! You'll have to let us know if you ever confront it!

[Gagino]

I prefer to just use my house as a base of operations. I know it inside and out, so I don't have to devote the brain power to conjuring a completely new place. Maybe, but my house is not exactly an ideal place for that. Another thing is that it is usually crowded with DC. Not only my family, a lot of unknown people. Creating a whole new place only for me would be a better option. You have to imagine exactly how it should look while you are awake. It is good to draw it for yourself in order for it to get easily into your dreams and to stabilize the form.

[Gagino]

Conjuring a DC to use as a friend is not something i would do. I feel that this places too much value on a dream character, which is just a mere thought, and in doing this you will also place high value on the less desirable aspects of your dreams. It was not an ordinary dream character. I have three "special" dream characters. I dont know what they really are, but they are different from other DCs. They arent just "mere thoughts", empty shells. You know what I mean. They arent stupid like every other DC. They have their own personalities, their own form, behavior. I didnt create them. They just showed up during these years that I have been lucid dreaming. And this was one of them. It was the one responsible for protecting me, he was almost always with me when I faced some danger in dreams. Something like a bodyguard.

[mini0991]

I once read about somebody who had a huge mansion and when they wanted to go somewhere, they first went to the mansion, then went through a door in the hall to get where they wanted to.

[rose_red]

Well, this is something that you will have to face on your own then, as was said. I do realize that what i suggested puts a deal of emphasis on the DC, but it would theoretically boost your confidence which would be what you need. I'm apparently wrong on this one though, it is a matter of case-by-case and didn't work for you. On topic of my first sentence, your guard running away could mean that this is an issue for you that you have to overcome in order to grow and learn from it.

[Gagino]

Ill try to go in there tonight and tell you what happens.

[ForgottenDream]

wow, this is interesting. please let us know how it went. i only felt fear once in a lucid dream, it was just an ominous feeling, like being in a haunted house only it's really haunted.

[Bolverk]

This is something Ive been trying to do for some time. I know it CAN be done, a lot of people do it including my friend (he has his own harem, btw ). You know, some building, cave, etc., where you would store everything you need during LDs. Maybe some experimenting tools, like mirrors and so on. So first, I imagined how it should look from the outside. Then when I got a lucid dream, I created it. However, it kept changing every LD. In time, I managed to stabilize the exterior. So I went on to create the interior. The problem is, everytime I enter, I feel this strong feeling of horror. And when I say strong I mean REALLY strong. I mean, I love nightmares, scary dreams, I even like to be scared in real life. I dare say that nothing in LDs can really scare me. Except this. I have never seen the "thing" that causes it. I can always enter only for a couple of seconds and only a few steps from the main door. Then I start feeling "it" closing in. Again, I have never seen it, but the fear is so strong, that I just have to run away screaming. Its like I enter that building and the "thing" wants to let me know, that it is its territory and I have nothing to do in there. Which disturbs me, as LDs are mine and mine only, its my world. So I dont fully understand what could possibly do this, what part of my subconscious mind. Whats the reason. Has anyone ever experienced something like this? In my late teens I started having a recurring nightmare. It was frequent at first and I haven't had it in quite a few years, but I have had a stretch of years thinking it was gone then it recurred again. In the nightmare I would wake up paralyzed wherever I had lain down to sleep at, which would soon send me into a paroxysm of fear. This led to my first lucid dream about 14 years ago, when I realized my bedside lamp wasn't right. I wouldn't realize I was dreaming every time I had the nightmare, but it mattered little as I gained no control over the dream remaining paralyzed and still likely to go into panic mode. I continued having this dream with no control over it for a few months when something changed in it. I started sensing a malevolent presence in my paralytic nightmares... well, malevolent is putting it lightly. The presence was pure freaking evil. I'm talking Lovecraftian sanity shattering evil. I never saw anything, but I might have been able to hear it. It was like a thousand voices crying in pain and torment right in my skull, but there was really no sound to it. I thought I had been scared about being paralyzed but that was nothing compared to this, and there was no running away from it... unless I achieved lucidity and could wake myself. Sometimes I did, other times I didn't. When I did gain lucidity in these nightmares I could, usually through the the largest force of willpower I can imagine myself exerting, force myself awake. It might have not been so difficult if I wasn't almost convulsively panicked by the nightmare. It's a little hard to describe the method I used to wake myself. I would fight down my fear and concentrate on my will to awaken. My focus or will was almost tangible, and I would mentally squeeze this focus, compacting it. Imagine having a blanket wrapped around a huge pile of rubber bands and compacting it down to the size of an egg. Well somehow thats what I was doing mentally. The description sounds strange, even to me, but thats how I've always described it as and is how I truly perceive it. When I had squeezed it hard enough I would let it go, and like a bunch of compacted rubber bands there was something like an explosion and I would jerk awake. I often had to explode my willpower several times to awaken from one nightmare. In the worst one I struggled and struggled to awaken, all the while my mind being thrashed by the presence till I was nearly a whimpering shell. Finally I succeeded and jerked awake in bed cold and sweating. It had been the longest such nightmare I had ever had and my heart was pounding and there was a lump in my throat that made it hard for me to swallow. I leaned back against my pillows closed my eyes and sighed in relief only to open them again and find that I couldn't move and the devil was back, screaming his thousand voice cry in my brain again. What a night. I don't think I was quite right for days. The nightmares had a strange effect on me. I came to enjoy my little battles with the evil presence. I guess I liked the thrill, even though I felt like I was narrowly escaping a permanent mental disorder by exposing myself to it. I eventually concluded that it wasn't a healthy thing to enjoy and I was somehow following a dark path. The nightmares became less and less frequent till almost not recurring, though I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if I had one again. As I said before I've went a few years without it happening, thinking they were a thing of the past,then one would spring up. I've really got no advice to give. I gave up on my fight and thus it seems to have more or less given up on me. Perhaps you or others can draw some insight from my experience to your own betterment. All I would say is do try to be self aware and only enjoy what is worth enjoying or you may make yourself a slave of your own lusts.

[reality<LDs]

If your really feeling THAT much horror, and it is that intense, then you should make another one (tedious i know) and as your are making it, keep repeating This is MY house! or something like that, and it should keep the "Thing" out. Hope I helped.