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      Can Lucid Dreaming become dangerous?

      Hello! I'm new to this whole concept and was reading about it online, and this one thought hit me. Could doing this ever become dangerous? Maybe I watch too much movies, but could this somehow distort your sense of reality? Perhaps you thought you were dreaming but actually wasn't and jumped off a building? Perhaps I'm just paranoid.

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      Yes. If you're a nutjob. >_>

      Trust me,you don't have to worry about that. You don't lose any sense of reality.
      What if I told you that I am dreaming right now?
      That your whole life is a lie?
      That the laws of physics as you know them are incorrect?

      Furthermore, what would you do if I told you I'm going to wake up as soon as you finish reading my signature?

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      Yeah it's totally harmless considering the fact that regular dreams don't distort reality either.

      Heck, if anything I'd say with all the reality checking I do, I'm MORE aware of the difference between real and dreams.
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      You're only at risk if you're schizophrenic and already can't tell the difference between what's real and what's fantasy. As already stated, lucid dreaming if anything makes you more aware of your perceptions.

      And don't jump off any buildings until you definately know you're dreaming.
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      Just don't jump off buildings in your dreams and you should be fine.

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      I get this alot from my parents, mainly my mum because she's a Christian, and she thinks lucid dreaming turns you away from Christ and can also drive you insane. I don't believe this for two reasons,

      1. I'm not religious, so I have no religion to turn away from.

      2. Like MrDoom says, lucid dreaming can be dangerous only if you are schizophrenic and/or like Mini Man says, a nutjob.
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      Religion and Spirituality please.


      On topic:

      Breathing can become dangerous too. I can inhale toxic fumes, or nerve gas, or drown. That aside, as long as you are COMPLETELY CERTAIN that you are dreaming, you should be fine. Try putting your finger through your palm, in my experience it is somewhat difficult to do while awake.

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      When lucid dreaming, my dreamscapes are real and fluid to varying degrees, and I travel to real places. In doing so, I most certainly encounter other spirits. Each encounter has the potential of a positive or a negative outcome. A negative outcome has the potential of damaging the physical body. So I say yes, there can be danger in lucid dreaming.

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      I actually felt like I was dreaming alot today and almost jumped from a high spot!!!
      I was really tired though and had been reading about this stuff for too long.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Pelephant View Post
      Hello! I'm new to this whole concept and was reading about it online, and this one thought hit me. Could doing this ever become dangerous? Maybe I watch too much movies, but could this somehow distort your sense of reality? Perhaps you thought you were dreaming but actually wasn't and jumped off a building? Perhaps I'm just paranoid.
      The level of danger is relative to the degree of immersion. And the distance
      and stretch of the aka chord, if thats going on.

      For the most part, subliminal aspects of self handle such details and theres nothing that the dreaming self can do to really get hurt. Exotic exceptions to this rule could in theory then be enumerated.

      At higher levels of skill, you take on some of those tasks and mishandling them
      can be dangerous or at least problematic. Perhaps the most common problem
      is of course paralysis, which in a well botched job could last for upwards of half an hour.

      As long as you have a body to return to, theres not much you can do in tiferet that can harm you. However, "Harm" is also pretty relative. When one includes spiritual or mental forms of harm, then yes, learning to navigate with skill is important.

      The biggest real "danger" as such is failing to seize the opportunity to escape the matrix; ie; adapting lucid dreaming as just another toy with which to play inside of the mental cage.

      To put exactly the same variables in different terms, tiferet is a very big hyperspace, and most people only experience the lowest 1 percent of it.

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      Quote Originally Posted by prometheuspan View Post
      The level of danger is relative to the degree of immersion. And the distance
      and stretch of the aka chord, if thats going on.

      For the most part, subliminal aspects of self handle such details and theres nothing that the dreaming self can do to really get hurt. Exotic exceptions to this rule could in theory then be enumerated.

      At higher levels of skill, you take on some of those tasks and mishandling them
      can be dangerous or at least problematic. Perhaps the most common problem
      is of course paralysis, which in a well botched job could last for upwards of half an hour.

      As long as you have a body to return to, theres not much you can do in tiferet that can harm you. However, "Harm" is also pretty relative. When one includes spiritual or mental forms of harm, then yes, learning to navigate with skill is important.

      The biggest real "danger" as such is failing to seize the opportunity to escape the matrix; ie; adapting lucid dreaming as just another toy with which to play inside of the mental cage.

      To put exactly the same variables in different terms, tiferet is a very big hyperspace, and most people only experience the lowest 1 percent of it.
      I think you misunderstood. He meant in Waking Life, RL, the physical world, you thought you were asleep and dreaming, then did something stupid because of it.
      What if I told you that I am dreaming right now?
      That your whole life is a lie?
      That the laws of physics as you know them are incorrect?

      Furthermore, what would you do if I told you I'm going to wake up as soon as you finish reading my signature?

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      not me because i always know where my real body is in a lucid dream as
      apposed to my dream body. I completely understand the whole time what
      im doing and what is going on. There is simply no confusing a LD state
      with being awake for me. Im conscious of being awake and im conscious
      of being in a LD. I can say to myself in a LD, "oh ya i read in the
      DVs forum today that i can breath under water so im going to try that
      right now." I can think..."oh no the dream is starting to slip away and
      im going to wake up." When youre awake youre awake, theres no mistaking
      it. Even in a false awakening you wouldnt do something dangerous, unless
      you were actually sleep walking right off your balcony thinking youre going
      into the bathroom. But sleep walking is a whole separate matter.
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      Quote Originally Posted by redrabbit View Post
      You really have to consider how dangerous life already is; I mean, I have nearly fallen to my death wide awake, let alone in a dream-state.

      Not to get too far off topic, but, are we all of the opinion that if you die dreaming then the dream ends?
      I have never ever ever died in a dream, LD or NL....ever! I always wake up
      before death so ya then it ends, or i escape or change it. Nothing tries to
      harm me in LDs also and if i cant fly for whatever reason (which is practically
      never) then i just kind of land nice and softly, i never fall and i never get hurt.

      BTW after reading everyones posts i feel that you are all so much better
      at explaining stuff then i can!
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      i'm sorry. wow. cognitive dissonance.

      this kind of thing only ever happened to me once. I was walking around naked
      in our yard because i had had a very lucid recurring dream that i had woken up-
      over and over and over. It tricked me well enough for me to walk out into the yard naked.

      That was when i was 13.

      For the most part lucidity period is a sort of cumulative psi energy. If you get more lucid while dreaming you should get more lucid while waking, and vice versa.

      I think the argument should be made that part of what was going on was i just wanted, subliminally, to walk around naked in the yard. I fooled myself because i wanted to be fooled, and because i was particularly groggy.

      Later on in life my state lucidity has grown, i think the reason why i missed the point is that i just can't really imagine it any more.

      For the most part, as you get more lucid, you become harder and harder to fool- even if its fooling yourself. I don't do any of these reality checks, for instance, any more. I just know that i'm dreaming and act appropriately.


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