i have started lucid dreaming lately and when i try to tell my friends they look at me like im crazy! God it makes me mad! does this happen to anyone els? and any help explaining? :shock:
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i have started lucid dreaming lately and when i try to tell my friends they look at me like im crazy! God it makes me mad! does this happen to anyone els? and any help explaining? :shock:
Actually I told two of my friends, and they actually thought it was cool. But everyone else might think I'm crazy...
Wooh another Kansas member!
Anyway, I have told a few of my friends, but they didn't seem very interested.
yea i tried to tell some of my friends they think its to hard :/
oh and yea kansas is boring too flat! i hate it here :(
I've had that sometimes. Most of my friends think it is cool, although some are skeptical. My dad is very skeptical about it and thinks it is all rubbish, which can be annoying sometimes. Then again, my dad is very skeptical about everything. I've tried to explain it to him, but he just doesn't see how it can be possible no matter what I say.
yes i find it really really annoying :bang: i just want them to have one lucid dream to understand -.-
I just say...I lucid dream. If they know about it and seem interested,
ill talk about it. If they seem like they dont get it then i drop it. Most
ppl dont get it.
I make a point of not talking about it with people who will think I'm crazy. I only tell friends who I know (based on their personality) will think it's cool and possibly attempt an LD themselves. :wink:
I've only told 2 friends after they brought the subject of crazy dreams up, and I found out one of them had one too, so luckily they still think I'm sane :P
well i just do a RC and they say what are you doing? i say just checking if im in a lucid dream they just laugh -.- and i really hate this because im used to being all high and mighty at everything lol
Would telling them about the scientific studies conducted about LD help, you think? I only have this link, but I think there are more around the forum:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_LaBerge
I never had that problem but I know how you feel - my mother is the kind of person that cannot conceive anything that isn't in front of her eyes. :roll: Her lack of imagination vs my constant wondering about all things was always an issue between us.
A lot of my friends are into lucid dreaming, that's partly how I got into it. I guess I was a lucky one ^______^
yes i guess you were it seems under 50k people lucid dream i dont like those odds >.>
I'd say about 1 in 50 people I tell actually give a sh*t. They might think its cool while we talk about it but have no motivation to give it a try.
Is the entire world lazy as sh*t or what...
My mom is a skeptic. She believes in the basic concept of being aware in a dream, but she doesn't believe that it feels real at all. :bang:
People tend to think I'm crazy no matter what I'm talking about so I am used to that... :P Seriously though, all my good friends are really interested in the topic when I bring it up. In fact, one of my best friends had her first lucid dream a week ago just from hearing me talk about it constantly.
Two of my close friends are quite interested, one of them doesn't really want to try it out herself though. Another friend is kind of worried that I lose my grip on reality and start living in a dream world (i.e. stop caring about the real world). I can imagine though that some other friends of mine would label it "crazy" too...
I've also told my parents what I'm doing, but neither did they seem very interested nor bothered by it. They kind of just accept it as something I find cool.
also i just hate the feeling of having a awesome lucid dream or lucid dreaming for the 1st time and telling people who dont care for anything!
I guess I'm an open minded friend. As I got turned on to lucid dreaming when my friend told me about her first one a month ago.
well i hate it they think im retarded
I dont think they are lazy....they just dont know! If they knew,
they would try to!! Theres no way to explain how real and how
wonderful it is! Because most ppl believe they have dreamed
dreams that seemed real. They just dont make the connection
that we mean....really real!! lol
I've read alot of these types of threads, it seems clear to me that lucid dreaming is often the victim of prejudice, I once made a comparison to the cro magnon people (Cave Men) in the book series earth's children seeing people riding horses, they become prejudice to them, thinking there is something super natural about them, they reacted with volience or fear upon first seeing them. (similar to how some people react to lucid dreaming with insults, or think of them as super natural today)
YES !!! If people don't experience dreaming the way some of us do , they totally can't understand at all . Forget about trying to explain lucid and dream learning to them ---they'll have me locked up !!
argh, i hate this! i'll try and tell my siblings or friends about my most recent lucid dream or a somewhat exciting dream and they'll become really skeptical and say that i'm making all of it up. my brothers think i'm weird for my RC's and DJ. :whyohwhy:
Yeah -- well just bc someone doesnt believe ..doesnt make it not true !!!
My fave series ever!! You are probably right too, to a degree tho, because
i think its easier to reach ppl nowadays then it was hundreds and thousands
of years ago. Nowadays ppl have more open minds and theyve seen so much
happen in just one century that they are ready to believe anything can
happen or can be invented. But to most ppl it must seem like something
supernatural to them and a lot of ppl dont go for that kind of thing. But its
not supernatural as we all know......cuz you know, when i see ppl camping
out somewhere and waiting for aliens to land....i think theyre all nutz too! :lol:
So we know LDing is nothing like that and that its as natural as walking
down the street...but they listen, and then think....omg that person is
nutz!! :lol: I just dont discuss it with anyone. :)
Tried telling my little brother about it as I doubted it to until I tried my first WILD then realized that, yes it is true. All he does is call me a hippy even tho I said people have proved it already :?
Most of my friends actually think it is cool, but I only brought it up (actually wrote about it on a blog so they knew about it before I ever spoke to them about it) to my very closest friends. My mom and sister think it is pretty cool. My sister and dad are both naturals, and my dad tells me I spend too much time sleeping. I keep trying to tell him to develop his LDing and dream control but he thinks I'm acting like a 4 year old or something :shock: My brother has no recall whatsoever and never talks about dreaming, so if it weren't for my mom and sis I think even he would think I was crazy :tongue:
Hey, maybe one of them will have an LD because of you and realize that you're actually the sanest of them all :tongue: I mean jeez, they can't even recognize the ridiculous situations of their dreams and distinguish them from reality. Now that sounds pretty insane to me!
My friends all really think lucid dreams are cool. A few have tried it but most aren't dedicated enough to really try. My good friend actually had a LD last night. I don't mention lucid dreaming except to people I think will be interested. I've never had anyone tell me it's impossible or anything like that.
well i guess it kinda depends on who your friends are...
until about 10 minutes ago, i didn't know there was anything BUT lucid dreaming... i have had them all my life, and thought they were normal. I mentioned one to my friend tonight and went to go see what people said online, and here i am! I've had so many in my lifetime i feel like there's just so much to say! So right now, this is pretty dang ecxciting. If it wasnt for my friends, i wouldnt know that not everybody has em...
I had a friend who thought it was impossible. He said that you just have a normal dream but in the dream you think you realize that you're dreaming (which by the way is possible, I've done it). I and another friend told him about the scientific proof but he was still skeptical, until one night he inadvertently had a lucid dream of his own. Needless to say, he believes now. Makes me feel warm inside.
I love when things turn out like that. I don't know why anyone would ever take such a strong stance on something they have no personal experience of. Unless he'd had a dream where he thought he realized he was dreaming but didn't really, in which case maybe he just though you were the one who was confused :tongue:
Could you start a new thread and tell us about your experiences? I, and I'm sure others, would be very interested to hear what lucid dreaming has been like for you.
To answer the original post... if someone doesn't want to listen, I don't tell them. If they don't take your word for it, then there's no point in trying to convince them. Also, my closest friends are usually open to anything I have to say, so that certainly makes things easier.
i told my mother about lucid dreams and i could tell she was skeptical about it, then one day she tried to tell me it wasn't possible. then i showed her the evidence. she hasn't said much since then. :]
In theory, everyone should know about LDing that went to my middle school on a specific year, since a public speaker spoke to us about lucid dreaming (FLAWLESS VICTORY:goodjob2:). However, in practice, few were really that interested in her small explaination of lucidity... At least all my friends that I've told didn't think it was fake! A few even had a LD right after the presentation!
I only got one person interested. My other friends were like, "Oh, that's really neat..." but then they gave me a skeptical look. I think people have to have one before they really understand how cool it is.
I have no need to tell my friends about lucid dreaming.
My friends really come in two flavours. The pagan and occultist ones thankfully keep their practices to themselves most of the time and I try my best to do the same. Every so often we will have an interesting discussion and thats always welcome though.
My atheistic or monotheistic friends are totally uninterested in that kind of thing. Occassionally we swap dream stories, but I don't need to go into detail with them.
End of the day. Its your dreams. Its your life. Why bother other people with it?
Telling someone they should be learning to lucid dream is really no better than telling people you should be meditating, or worshipping, or learning to cook. These are good things, proven to have benefits, but they aren't for everyone.
My parents aren't really skeptical about it or anything, or look at me like I'm crazy. They just usually comment on how freaky it sounds to actually realise you're dreaming. xD;
However, I usually don't talk about it with people who don't know anything about it; luckily a really good friend of mine can naturally lucid dream and we often talk about it. : )
I told someone from school about it, but he didn't really believe me..he tought that I was on drugs or something like that. But I can understand why people don't want to learn how to do it; It's just way too hard. I've had 2 short lucids in 2 years. Hard work, no rewards? I think I'll just sleep like normal people.
Yeah, the first people I told was my sister and best friend, their cool with it, my best friend even has tried to LD, she's had a couple. My dad thinks I might become like possessed by the devil or something, he kept warning me about whether it was safe or not :?
My mom doesn't care and nor do my brothers, but boy they are missing out BIG time.
Oh well :roll:
kinda feel bad that my parents won't try it. Because, as you said, they're missing out. Its funny though, we can give people links to all the proff in the world. But until NBC does a special on it, we're crazy.
It's weird, the same day I wrote my response (up there^^^) my mom asked me for the book about LDing because she wanted to read it. Maybe she does care?
I agree with you Rai Saix, they should really show something about it on the news. But, I remember seeing something like that on youtube, where they were talking about it on the news.
People just aren't interested in Lucid Dreaming.
I was thinking lately, a lot of people ask me what I spend my time doing, and it is irritating to get past that, because I don't like to bring it up to people a lot of the time, though I do occasionally tell them about it, it usually isn't something I do in public talking to a person for the first time, though I'm quite likely to tell a friend or someone I've been hanging close to for a bit, it really does make me sound like a boring lazy person.
Yeah besides the fact that there can be like 3 pages in a row describing the scenery and location, it has a story that really got me involved, just think the 6th one should be out about now, soon I'll start loosing my memory of the series.
LDing is the least of my concerns. I am still in the closet to most people I know as a Pagan witch, an asexual, an intersexual, a neutrois and an otherkin. Lucid Dreaming is just one extra thing on a long list of things that would probably make people think I'm crazy. And even one of the more believable things on the list, too.
I've yet to be called crazy, but not many people I talk to about the subject can grasp the concepts I try to explain. Especially the fact that a dream can reach the same vividness experienced in real life. Perhaps I'm bad at explaining, or perhaps they're unwilling to accept it.
Of those, the only ones I don't understand your usage of is intersexual and neutrois. But yeah, I'm there. Lucid dreaming tends to fold into a general level of weirdness.
In the past my weirdness stuck out, these days the people around me are... well. I'm surprised when if they manage to get out of bed in the morning without a horrible disaster. I'm normal.
yes i got someone from my school to look at this website
^.^
Ever since I've read a book about LD, I've been trying to lucid dream, but I am not so good with it. Sometimes I think it may be the unfavourable common opinion concerning such things that prevents me from succeeding.
I'd recommend focusing on your own opinions, not the opinions of others. Don't let other people hold you back from what you believe in or think you may believe in and want to learn about. Lucid dreaming has been scientifically shown to be a legitimate and real phenomenon, so anyone with an unfavorable opinion should be ignored :tongue: Don't let them hold you back from what is natural and normal and can be achieved by almost anyone willing to try it. I'm not sure I believe in OBEs (I think they are misinterpreted dreams, but I know very little about them)and whether I am right or wrong, by no means should my opinion prevent others from pursuing such experiences. I hope they do and develop scientific studies just to prove me wrong!
I'm very careful about bringing up LD's with other people. Mainly because it's very easy to draw a connection between the wonders of LD'ing and escapism. So when I do try to explain the concept to long time friends I try to remind them that I'm not wasting time while doing this because I do it during an 8 hour period where you normally don't do anything anyway(sleep). Might as well make the most of it right?
As for their reactions, they have ranged from very interested, to not interested at all, to skeptical, or even completely unbelieving. Usually the people that think it's all bollocks are people who don't remember dreams to begin with. I feel bad for them.
However, I snagged one friend into lucid dreaming, and he now keeps a dream journal and reports to me whenever he has an LD :D
Victory!
Yea, that's probably true. I'd like to read more research on it. I just think on these forums that most people have false awakenings and then claim to have OBEs or to have APed, which to me is like propagating inaccurate nonsense, although I am not sure what scientifically is required for something to be an OBE. If a FA in which you see your own body is considered an OBE then I suppose I do understand them (even though you are still very much within your own body), but then comes the question... how can one tell if they are having a FA or an OBE? All the more reason to learn to RC! :cheeky:
I am still 100% skeptical about AP... Anyway I can't even say if FAs and OBEs are two different things or not because I don't know the scientific criteria for an OBE, but I like to remain skeptical and suspicious until science proves me wrong :tongue:. It prevents the furthering of false information, like whatever jerk started the myth that if you pinch yourself in a dream it won't hurt. What an ass. Think about how many people could have gotten lucid! :roll:
well it seems lucid dreams are being more known it was on the news this morning and theres also a song out about it now!
A couple of my friends belived me, the rest told me I was making it up. My mom thinks it's pretty cool though, & my older brother dosn't really understand it.
I'm yet to mention it to anyone but I've brought up topics somewhat related(dreams in general, DJs) and a friend of mine seems interested and open-minded enough so I may bring it up with him one of these days.:D
But, I'm not going to mention it to most of my friends since they're not the most open-minded bunch of people.:(
Ah well, if I don't meet anyone who LDs/pull anyone into LDing, I'll still have DVs.:P
ya. wow. eveybody but one person thinks im nuts. its rediculous. people are just missing out
Anyone i tell just thinks im crazy too haha. I just dont bother telling people about it unless i know for sure they would actualy be interested in it
I'm used to people thinking I'm crazy. When I tell people about LDing they think it's just another crazy scheme I have going or something.
I think the main reason that people think LDing is crazy is because there really isn't anyway to ultimately prove to them that it's real even though there's communities (such as DVs) and people (you) that have been LDing for some time.
And as for scientific proof even though LDing has been proven the information that it's based on isn't very wide spread and solid. :|
my fathers side of them family think lucid dreaming is drug induced.... haha
My friends do that too. But they're close minded fools.
is even some lucid dreamers think im crazy:roll:
Well, I am crazy, but it still annoys me when people laugh or give strange looks when I check to see if I'm asleep. Ah well, they're the ones that miss out, they don't know how amazing lucid dreaming is! :D
Isn't it no matter what others think about ya? i do this whenever i want, and when they ask me: "are you crazy?!" i tell them y not, if they believe it or not. LD is proven!
Yea I mean I know for a fact it is real, even without scientific proof, because I've experienced it. People thought Christopher Columbus was crazy. And there are still people to this day who think the Earth is flat (flat earth society). It must suck to be afraid to take a cruise ship across the ocean, but the rest of us can have all the fun soaking up the sun ;)
Everyone has a crazy side in them :P
Some of my friends think its real but that i cant do it >.>
oh and i did a lucid task last night ^.^ dancing banana time! :banana:
I met a person today very interested in LDing. It was exciting to randomly bring it up in public and literally have the person next to me say, "ARE YOU A LUCID DREAMER?!?!" :boogie: We had to put up with the skepticism of the others but, screw them. At least we don't spend half our lives asleep!
Bring it up, or talk to you about it? You'd be surprised what peoples' reactions are. It was an amazingly positive experience. My psych prof was actually standing there telling me LDing isn't really a conscious experience and is pretty rare, and I tried to tell her that it is conscious and not rare at all until she admitted she'd never had one so really couldn't say. Not conscious my ass, LaBerge supported that you are in his work! :roll: And then the girl and I started to chat. So, :banana:
Hah and yea, needless to say I was RCing all over the place today :tongue:
I love it when people think I'm crazy. Because usually the people who think I'm crazy are crazier than me, they're just "normal". Normal people are the weirdest. It's the ultimate form of irony.
Agreed! Normalcy sucks!!! I asked my science teacher today if she had heard of it, as I wanted to see if it was better known in the scientific community. She didn't, and I didn't tell her what it was. As I didn't have the time. But I told her to google it, I'll ask her what she thinks tomorrow...
meh. in my case, people just think im crazier
COOL!!!! My Drama I teacher is kinda "hippyish" (in her own words) and she knows ALL about lucid dreaming!!! She say's she'll help me with it, and we'll talk about it more on monday!!! My science teacher has yet to look it up... :P
Agreed. :( I don't think she thinks its hippy. And shes not new agey or anything.
HEY! Shut up!!! I love my drama techer!!! How dare you! She said that she doesn't think lucid dreaming is hippy-ish... so there.
All my friends think it's really cool, and trying it themselves. I mean.. who wouldn't want to do anything they could immagine?
Noone i talk to seems interested >.< No matter how many benefits i include nor how many details i lapse, It's always a fail...
Me too. At least for the most part. I've gotten 2 people intersted in it, but that was a while ago and neither of them will keep a dream journal no matter what I say, so they've both been pretty unsuccessful.
My aunt seems interested..... She belives everything that is.
I did. She says that its wonderful! I think she may try it. I told her how to WILD, and how to DILD. I hope she has time to do it, but she may not.
Yeah!!! I made sure to tell her the cold hard facts. And asked right out: Do you believe any of this? And she said yes! A hundred percent.
Meh. I have this user name everywhere. Even on her and my other aunts digital scrapbooking site. (to talk to them and get advice on photoshop.) So I'd be screwed. Although honestly, I don't think she'd care at all. As long as I'm not talking about taking drugs or having actual sex. But I haven't introduced anyone to DV yet, including her. Although I made a collage for drama with the word lucid dreamer on it, and now MANY people are asking me about it. Most people seem to believe, but aren't interested. But a few are. I also saw some kids with a "Ask me about Crew!" shirts. I was thinking we could have a NATIONAL (or international) Lucid Dream Day where we wear shirts that say "Ask me about Lucid Dreaming!" Sure we'd get A LOT of skeptics, but it oculd help those fabled open minded people learn about this amazing phenemenon!
Meh. Most people at school just say something like "thats interesting!" and change the subject. :[
People seek out the words of the one who speaks least. There is some inherent value derived when one is less liberal with the dissemination of their teachings. If you are one of those who are quiet and content in your existence, people will seek you out and demand to know the source of your quiet wisdom.
Be reluctant to speak about it at first, and they will hardly be able to contain their desire for your knowledge.
Thus, the first step is to perfect your art.
Soon the people will flock. They always do.
Ive tryed telling people but they dont understand, how could they? untill theyve actually experienced it. Most people cant even wrap their minds around the possibilities...
I agree..I've told almost everyone i come in contact with about a dream or two, or the concept of Lucid Dreams and some care, and others just faintly giggle as they turn away..
I think the best way to even start a conversation, is to ask someone, (or everyone for that matter) "hey ___. have you ever had one of those dreams where you realized you were dreaming?"...almost EVERYONE will say yes or they've had one and didnt do anything.
To whoever said "only like 50,000 people can lucid dream", you should study up.
ANYONE can lucid dream, it just takes practice to induce them and absolute LUCK for the first time, unless you've been practicing for so long.
"Unfortunately, no one can be told what the Matrix is. You have to see it for yourself...."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xBlesr8vS2g LMAO this is how we should induct people into lucid dreaming. I bet no one thinks Morpheus is crazy!
Depends on how you come at it.
Via laberges and the science of sleep is one thing.
Via some spiritual, third eye, chakra, OBE is a bit harder for a lot of people to swallow.
IMO at least.
Yea every time I read something in his books about using chakras for relaxation or whatever I feel like slapping the man. He had a golden opportunity to just present it scientifically, and it is just too newagey for the every day person to buy into. You're going along like, "Wow this sounds great! Um... throat chakra? Don't they use chakras in anime like Naruto? Wow. Hah. I can't believe I wasted so much time reading this book. What a bunch of crazies." I understand that in some cases these things are legitimate and beneficial to achieving lucidity, but they throw noobs off too easily :(
I think it depends on how mature the people around you are. Of course immature persons tend to make fun of things they do not understand and consider the people that do "crazy" or at least odd. But with age people usually get wiser, so actually the people I talk with about such experiences are rather interested.
So far, I've only told two of my friends. One of them told me he used to actively LD and now he wants to get back into it...the other one looked at me weirdly.
If any one calls me crazy for loving dreaming, they can't be a friend of mine. :D
Interesting, the fist person i talked about lucid dreaming was my brother. On day he started told me about a scary thing that happened with him frequently during the night, for the description i indentified the problem(???), sleep paralyze(what a lucky guy...). I explained him about that and i tried to introduce lucid dreaming but he wasnīt very receptive about the last...
Normally i donīt talk with other people about ld because the result itīs too predictable, one cause is the question of maturaty, but there is another point, most of the people donīt like to break routines. LD requires some dedication(little but some) and itīs hard to make money with it, two caractheristics not very appelative in nowadays.
You think they give you weird looks when you talk about LDs. That's nothing compared to talking about OBEs. They want to burn me at the stake.
OBEs t´s not weird in believing in it, has some logical indeed. Nightstalkers, ok...now it´s becoming weird...however it´s a funny theory :D.
Nightstalkers are a load of bull, but OBE (which have no relation to nightstalkers), is very real. Just depends on if you want to believe it exists.
I don't just tell people about lucid dreaming, but a lot of the time people ask me why "RC" is written on my hand. I just tell them it's for lucid dreaming, if they seem interested I'll talk but if not I just drop it.
A lot of the time they aren't interested, so noone thinks I'm crazy... at least not for that reason...;)
You should try to not rely on using the "RC" on your hand. It won't be there in your dreams.
Because you are dreaming!
And because you're dreaming it's impossible to see something written on your hand?
No. It is possible to see something on your hand, it will just be completely differen't from what you wrote before... Thats the very essence of that RC...
It's not a black or white answer. Sometimes it will show up, sometimes it will not. For the most part, people believe it won't so it won't. Text also usually shows up strangely, and your hands are often times deformed. But it IS possible that it will show up.
Everyone also needs to remember.
Were the ones who are sane, everyone else is insane / out of there minds ;)
We are most definably in our minds having lucid dreams :D
So were technically not out of our minds, it the others who are out of there minds hahaha
nah, i'm pretty much tops with everybody and they all think it's swell.
i don't take dreaming to seriously and i have to admit there is more to life than dreaming.
well congratz on me i got a person at my school that wants to learn lucid dreaming : P
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