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      omg!
      All you had to do in the first place was agree with me that SP can lead
      to a lucid dream, because thats all i said in the first place. But you had
      to give me the whole 'well thats like saying backing out of a driveway
      is like driving on a highway'....its just a way to get there.' I didnt say SP
      was a lucid dream...only just a way to get there. Why didnt you just agree
      with me in the first place, like how youve just finally done, but not without
      insulting me first though!
      I feel about as special as a grain of sand in here!

      Then the last post I quoted, the guy said 'you are in fact awake during
      SP' so i said....well no you arent always awake.....just like you have just
      said in depth. All you did was agree with me again!
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      Quote Originally Posted by dearly View Post
      I didn't say it was a lucid dream. I believe the thread is asking what do you experience prior to drifting into a lucid dream

      I've been "lucid dreaming" my entire life and am not up on all the terminology. I've only lately found out that what I've been doing has a name. But if you're the word master, then I'm happy to concede the point that before entering a lucid dream I typically experience sleep paralysis
      This is what i had thought they meant as well! How you feel before you go into a lucid dream.
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      This might sound weird, but everything becomes distant and disconnected. The feeling that if I turn around I'll just see blackness, or that the world ends 100 ft. in front of me. I'm in my own little bubble. o.O
      What if I told you that I am dreaming right now?
      That your whole life is a lie?
      That the laws of physics as you know them are incorrect?

      Furthermore, what would you do if I told you I'm going to wake up as soon as you finish reading my signature?

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      Quote Originally Posted by supreme View Post
      omg!
      All you had to do in the first place was agree with me that SP can lead
      to a lucid dream, because thats all i said in the first place. But you had
      to give me the whole 'well thats like saying backing out of a driveway
      is like driving on a highway'....its just a way to get there.' I didnt say SP
      was a lucid dream...only just a way to get there. Why didnt you just agree
      with me in the first place, like how youve just finally done, but not without
      insulting me first though!
      I feel about as special as a grain of sand in here!

      Then the last post I quoted, the guy said 'you are in fact awake during
      SP' so i said....well no you arent always awake.....just like you have just
      said in depth. All you did was agree with me again!
      Actually, we started out talking about two different things and I mistakenly thought that you were saying that when you first entered a lucid dream, you experienced SP, so I sought to clarify this. Obviously with such confusion you can't simply agree to something, otherwise I would be agreeing with something that I believe is false. Then you said that SP can lead to a lucid dream, and I said, obviously, just that they are not the same thing, because I did not realize that we were talking about two different "moments" in the "timespan" of WILDING (experiencing SP and THEN entering a lucid dream).
      Then regardless of what we thought we were talking about, you stated incorrect information that one is "obviously still asleep" while in SP. To be "awake" is literally to be "aware", so there is no in-between. You also seemed to express that you were not aware that one enters SP every time one goes to sleep, so I wanted to make sure that that was clear and that most of the time, people are not conscious while entering SP.
      Anyway, enough hijacking this thread, if you want to talk about what SP is we can PM lol. I wish the OP would clarify if he wanted to know of our experiences prior to lucidity, or upon achieving lucidity, so I could answer his question properly
      Last edited by Shift; 09-23-2008 at 03:55 PM. Reason: bolded for emphasis....

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      I get nauseous for a second some times, then it stabilizes and I am in a lucid dream.
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      I had no idea people experience an effect when they become lucid!! thats a new one

      for me its just a realization. sometimes its slow like "wait a minute..this is odd..hmm...is this...ah..a dream? hmmm?" and it will take another minute or two to finally sink in. or it doesn't sink in at all.

      othertimes is quick and sudden and I'm screaming "IM DREAMING!!" and I look around me a bit confused as if was transported into the twilight zone. though, nothing in the dream has actually changed. only my relation to it.

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      well, when i WILD, i get this feeling of kinda energy and then i fell myslef backwards through my bed in this like lean that goes past 90 degrees, then i tumble onto a dream floor and have to wait a few seconds for the dream to shape itself.

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      Shift, we didn't hijack a thread, we are discussing it. So just one more thing
      I want to say. I've known for decades what SP is, long before I came in
      here. It's what I used to first start LDing. Almost everyone on earth enters into
      this state during REM sleep. If you happen to start waking up during REM sleep,
      (sometimes from a noise, say) you could find yourself still in SP. I know this.
      What I didnt know, was that apparently we all wake up for a second or so
      in between REM stages of sleep. That is something I never notice.
      When I'm aware that I'm in SP, I use it to lucid dream. This usually happens
      to me right after I go to bed. There are some valid explanations for why I
      sometimes go into REM sleep as fast as in 5 or 10 or 15 minutes after I go to
      bed. When this happens I'm usually aware of it and aware that my body is also
      going into SP very quickly (and like I think I've said before, it feels just like when
      your foot falls asleep but it's your whole body...kind of tingly-like) and if I'm deep
      enough into it, I immediately shift into LDing. If I'm not deep enough in when I
      first realize whats going on, and I try to get into a LD...I'll usually wake up too soon,
      not have a strong LD, or just fall asleep. From explanations I've heard in here, I
      gather that means that I always WILD. But, I have no 'understanding' of when these
      nights will happen. They are completely random. Even though I've been lucid dreaming
      for a long, long time now, I don't believe I can initiate one purposely, and I would
      indeed consider myself special if I could. Maybe someday I'll give it a try, but I've
      always been satisfied by this way. Also, Sometimes I'll wake up in the middle of the
      night for whatever reasons, still in SP and I'll lucid dream then also if I want to. I
      have no idea what this is called, maybe that's the DILD, but I usually have no
      recollection of the dream I was having before this. I only use it as before to
      get into a LD. Sometimes though I want to wake up (pee) so I discard the LD
      opportunity. Maybe it is still WILD though, because as you say, we are not
      dreaming at this time....but waking up.
      (I think the problem you and I were having, is that I always call the state of being
      aware of SP, still dreaming. And that's only because SP is part of REM sleep and
      dreaming......and it has to be at least a very small part of dreaming because
      otherwise, how could I start a lucid dream from there if I were not? Once I'm
      fully awake....I can never initiate a lucid dream from there. Unless I go back
      into REM sleep again quickly and am aware of it, haha)

      Ok that is all I wanted to say......lucidity is hard to explain in one or two words
      but 'vivid' or even 'virtual realitity' are about as good as any words to explain it.
      Last edited by supreme; 09-23-2008 at 05:27 PM.
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      Quote Originally Posted by CaLeB- View Post
      Basically I feel like I woke up, and everything around is me is vivider.
      It feels like real life, but with out pain.

      You have all the same feelings, taste, power, sound, sight, but no pain.

      It's INSANE. There's really no way to describe it if you've never done it.

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