Thread: Salvinorin A effects on REM sleep ?

Most logically is would screw any lucid abillities because salvia desolves your conscious self and quality to indentify with yourself!
So i cant say about less or more rem but it wou;ld be less chance on lds for sure!

do you have a pure extract/tincture? (send me some )
it gives me extrodinary dreams

Oh that i believe but i doubt they will be lucid ones.
Yes i got a 10x extraxt lol..shall i test if for dreams?
how much u took neb?

jeff

depends what your experience with drugs are. have you ever had it before?

i had 1-2 cones. but smoke the second one really quick, use a butane sort of ligher and hold it in

and have a sitter!

its illigal in my country

Yes i had it before but i got cystic fybrosis thats why i tested it only once!
was funny, with my left eye..sight i was in a dream with my right eye and sight i was sobre.
funny experience!

no idea what it does at nigth when u take it orally before sleeping!
thought u ment that!

smoke it an hour before you go to sleep! thats what im gonna do tonight..thanks for the idea hehe

i'm smoked salvia concentrate... it fucked me up for about 10 minutes but that was it. after that everything went normally, dreamwise. i haven't smoked it more than 3 times in a day so i don't know how a massive smoker's mind might react.

I had an ounce of leaves.


i considered making it into an extract, which isn't that hard. But it takes a fair bit of time (a few days)

and you have to dry it in the oven which takes hours. which i can't really do where i live with my family.



I used to smoke it often before going to sleep .

But the leaves aren't that intense. i imagine smoking 10X would make more of a difference.

yeah we were packing bowls of total extract. then we smoked some in a hookah... quite a trip. i could have swore i was being sucked to the wall but i was convinced that i wasn't.

MMM good point adidas, it only works shortly so not much use in taking it before sleep.
Well with my one hemisphere lol i was for 1o min maybe 15 a fence around a garden and little dwarfs tried to bend me around the whole garden. my other hemisphere was totally sobre and could look into that hallucination/dream and thought wow that part of me is really in a dream convinced he is a fence around a garden. Haha was funny!

I don't think anything is really going to help except oversleeping. The reason you lucid dream more when you oversleep is you are in stage 1 much of the time. The farther into the night the more REM sleep you have. If you took some drug that kept you from being in stage 3-4 then you would feel like you are dead in the morning. That and I don't think you would remember your dreams anyways.

Although I have not yet experimented with Diviner's Sage (Salvia divinorum's common name) I have been experimenting with another legal herb for dreaming that may interest you:
Datura stramonium, also known as Thorn Apple.
Now, I first feel that I should warn you that this is from the deadly nightshade family and should be considered potentially fatal. However, in the dosages I would recommend for augmenting dreaming, it should not be a problem.

I found that, by ingesting a small amount of seeds an hour or so before going to bed, my dreams became incredibly vivid and strange. The seeds take a few hours to take effect. The amount of realism in the dreams was quite incredible; i was able to recreate scenes from my daily life in colourful and accurate detail. Other less-guided dreams took me to strange landscapes and bizarre situations. I have not done this enough times to find out whether it is possible to become lucid, but that's on my todo list and could keep you posted.

If you choose to experiment with this, please keep in mind that the concentration of the active ingredients in plant matter is highly variable due to influences of: genetic variety, growing conditions and weather. The best way to establish a safe dosage is to start small and ramp up.

more info on this substance can be found in erowid's vaults

Be careful with Datura it can be deadly because it contains highly strong poison alkaloids.
Also for me it wasnt fun at all, dry mouth like hell and throat and no halucinations.
Also it blocks your memory and i dont like that all to much, so i can imagine lots of better and more fun experiences for this.

i have smoked salvia about an hour before going to sleep. it did not make me more lucid then normal, but it significantly increased the strangeness and vividness of my dreams. for example one that stays in my mind to this day, being about a year after it occured, was of this dream were i was walking arround inside someones body, everything in the normal world was there except made of flesh. there were lots of aliens coming from holes that would open up in the skin of this person. i dont know, it definetly was very strange compared to my normal dreams.