fighting/letting go on the way to sleep

[baby faced assassin]

i had an experience the other night whilst trying to go lucid. i was beginning to relax after a while in bed, i could feel my body starting to go to sleep as it were, and i can only explain it like my body was going into convulsions, not my mind however. but it was quite unnerving. has anyone else had this experience. i do want to state that i am not epileptic or anything, i am v. v. fit and healthy, its just that i was almost fighting going to sleep or something.it is weird and i dont know why it happens(it has happened b4). i then went into something half lucid and started screaming 'come on satan, come on' whilst i could hear the rumble of thunder and impending danger/doom around me.....i put this quite disturbing half ld down to the fact that i have some inner demons i am working on atm (it was a bit like bruce lee life story when he keeps facing that warrior).....i have been using some induction mp3s with rain storms in the background so i guess this may have influenced the thunder/satan thang anyway the whole thing ended and i was left quite confused for a while and a bit sweaty, my heart was beating a bit faster than usual, it was quite a powerful thing. i do not feel that i completed what i was looking for, i feel like i was holding myself back because i did not truly want/or was not ready to face my demons/the evil whatever....interesting but disturbing, but what i really wanna know is about the body spasm/convulsion thing. anyone else had this as they enter dream world???

[Ryuinfinity]

The spasms probably weren't real. And the devil definitely wasn't! Those are called hypnagogic hallucinations.

[moonshine]

The spasms probably weren't real. And the devil definitely wasn't! Those are called hypnagogic hallucinations. To clarify these HH are what you feel as your body undergoes Sleep Paralysis. Lucid dreamers commonly experience vibration and strange noises. This is a kind of transition zone as your brain switched from external input (sight, sound, touch, taste) to internally generated (i.e. dreams). You just about WILDed. Once you understand whats happening, it won't be so scary when it happens, and you can work through it. Look for tutorials and threads on Sleep Paralysis.

[baby faced assassin]

i think i l u guys lol=) i have had them before it was just weird, more intense this time cheers for the info will research it some more thnx

[Xander_Fitz]

If it makes you feel any better i had one last nite, i was WILDing and my legs felt like i had bricks on them, like a big slab of concrete then my hands and arms where numb, i kept getting a shooting pain in my left arm and my back, on the right side, i then stopped the (humming sound you use to keep yourself awake) and i noticed i stopped, but i didnt intend to stop, so i was like wat the hell? so i tryed to carry on, and i closed my eyes and i could see my brain shape on my eye lids, im sure this was a hpyagogic illusion, not to sure but whatever it was got my heart racing a bit, after a while i managed to start humming again then my body fell asleep and i once again stopped, i then felt i was dreaming, so i looked at my phone cause the alarm went off, and it said 4:01am then i looked again and it was 4:00am so i thought Hmmm a minute difference doesnt sound to dreamy so i gave up and went to sleep lol

[baby faced assassin]

its cool man. they are scary i admit, and i have had them before but never knew wtf was going on. my medievilness assumed it was some sort bad sign, or maybe that i was getting through to the other side or some sht like that....but my eyes are wide open now, so to speak!!! i notice ur from liverpool, just down the road from me xander fitz, hows it goin on sunny mersyside?

[moonshine]

i then felt i was dreaming, so i looked at my phone cause the alarm went off, and it said 4:01am then i looked again and it was 4:00am so i thought Hmmm a minute difference doesnt sound to dreamy so i gave up and went to sleep lol Ha Ha. Tricky false awakenings. I wonder how many people try to WILD and end up sitting on their dream beds in their dream room getting frustrated.