Thread: Photoreading

That's supposedly how this photoreading business works, conceptually. I have the CDs by the guy and to be honest I've only listened to like the first CD so I don't know much about it's real potential. It does seem a bit far-fetched but again, I'll need to finish the CDs someday.

BTW, welcome to the forums.

Originally posted by Lefnire
I don't know if anyone's documented trying this or not, but I've been trying to learn lucid dreaming for 2 years for a specific reason, and seeing as I haven't obtained lucidity once, I oughta just toss that reason out here and see if it works.

I like your idea. Especially since it's the same as mine. I've been trying to half-heartedly lucid dream for four months but I've only had one of them and that lasted for half a minute or so. Photoreading sounds cool, but I doubt it would be possible unless you were an expert meditator or something (lucid dreaming would have to be totally natural). THEN you could remain totally conscious (to do what you want) and relaxed enough (to be able to access your subconscious).

Also, I read somewhere that the "Sleeping Prophet" (sorry, forgot his real name) would sleep with his head on top of a book and in the morning he would awaken with the knowledge. Not that that is related to photoreading. Man! Wouldn't THAT would be such a time saver?

Anyway, if you really want to learn how to read fast, then a more realistic thing would be to approach speed-reading. It can take you to speeds of 5,000 or 10,000 WPM. But, it's still quite difficult to actually pull it off. You've got to be TOTALLY absorbed into the book. Hard to be that absorbed with your history homework or something.

Originally posted by Lefnire
Now i know reading isn't allowed in dreams, but assuming you have complete access to your subconscious, couldn't you basically just glance at something (assuming that what I've heard of the subconscious having an infinite memory bank is true) and then be able to access every detail of that body via the subconscious? In otherwords, glance at a page using photoreading steps and then ask your subconscious or dream guide during an LD to relay all of that info to your conscious... you can read gazillions of books this way, study for tests, etc. Right?

In my experience with writing in dreams you know what it means just the characters are not right. As for subconscious accesses of information you can do that when your awake infact you do it all the time.

I remember UMJ being an advocate of photo reading. Here is what he had to say.
Also learing stradagies.com has a lot of info on this topic. (But they send you a ton of spam!!!)

Originally posted by UMJ
Photoreading allows you to read at 25,000 per minute. It does this by allowing you read with your subconcious mind and not your concious one.
You do this by following the four photoreading steps

1.)Prepare(1min): state your purpose for photoreading and enter the state of alert awareness.

2.)Preview(8min tops): Preview the material you are about to photoread and take out trigger words.

3.)Photoread: Enter the mental state of accelerated learning and then state your photoreading affirmations such as, \"As I photoread my concentration is absolute.\" Then you diverge your eyes into photofocus and simply look at the pages as you turn them.

Now like much things that are in your subconcious mind you can't just go back there and get it. That is, unless you've reached a state of enlightenment (whatever that means to you) or are extremely skilled at photoreading. What you have to do is give your mind time to categorize the information for you. For your very first book that you photoread it should be 24 hours or one sleep cycle. Then your incubation time shoots up to 45 minutes. This leads to step four.

4.) Activation: You activate the material you photoread by simply being curious. After you have gotten your curiousity up you use certain techniques such as mind probing, super reading, dipping, and mindmapping.

When you first start photoreading you can read a book in about 1/3 the time it would regularly take you to read. After that, your belief increases and your time drops. There's also direct learning, the ability to increase ones skill in a certain subject simply through photoreading. I did a madden experiment with just photoreading faqs on madden and now I am madden godly. Paul Sheele talks about direct learning more in Genius code but alas, I haven't the money to buy it. I know that lucid dreaming is a part of it but everybody who has gone through the program are to busy being geniuses and beating people in shit to help me out.

I've been meessing around with unorthodox ways of activation and one that Paul Sheele talks about but does not get into is dream activation. That's why I came here talking about dream activation.
In anycase if anybody wants to know about photoreading they can go to learningstrategies.com or ask me about it. It's an extremely easy process that is bringing me a 36 on the ACT.

This is more of an information post to you all instead of me because today was devoted to learning as much about lucid dreaming as I can.
In doing this I went out and my friend hypnotise me into having a lucid dream tonight and although I may not be a female or extremely hypnotizable like the people in the Joe Dane experiment, I'm sure I'm going to have one tonight because believing is something gullable people like me can do.

Sounds like light hypnosis really.
Can anyone here actulay photo read? Ive heard about it but not realy been intrested because on face value it dosent seem all that usefull.

I can photoread and it helps out a lot.

Throughout all of the textbooks and novels I am reading in regards to my field of study, I picked up on photoreading to haste myself. The results were great. I wouldn't necessarily coin it all to photoreading, however. I felt I had already been able to photoread, sort of.

The basic idea is to "train your eye" to pay attention to more than one word. I suppose if you want to bring science into this - it can help widen your fovea just a little, enough to pay more attention (ah hah..). Really, it's just paying more attention to more words at one time. There are computer programs with these photoreading packages that include phrases appearig for a mere 2 or so seconds for you to read and then moves onto another irrelevant sentence. The words gradually grow length in syllables and complexity, etc. to help you read better.

The training part worked for me, however, I already basically knew about the subconscious invovlement. If you cannot pay attention in class or can't even read a book alone for an hour, don't even attempt photoreading just yet - you might not have the patience.

I think that is speedreading. In speed reading (which I've been trying for THREE years and have only had half-hour moments here and there- I'm a VERY slow learner) you can read anywhere from two words at a time (one word is word reading, 2 is officially speed reading) to a whole page at a time, grouping every word by the sentence, sentence by the paragraph, and paragraph by the page just as you group every letter by the word (you don't sound out every letter, just every word). For this they have programs like EyeQ, AceReader, RocketReader, etc. In photoreading you recognize that you're deliberately making no consciouse connection to what you're "reading," you're just looking at it and asummably remembering it "subconsciously." I won't be able to decide if this is bogus or not until I have a lucid dream, though.
Pure Potent- I think you might be right about the varying degrees of awareness involved in LDs/Photoreading... that might be detrimental to the experiment.

Originally posted by Lefnire
I think that is speedreading. In speed reading (which I've been trying for THREE years and have only had half-hour moments here and there- I'm a VERY slow learner) you can read anywhere from two words at a time (one word is word reading, 2 is officially speed reading) to a whole page at a time, grouping every word by the sentence, sentence by the paragraph, and paragraph by the page just as you group every letter by the word (you don't sound out every letter, just every word). For this they have programs like EyeQ, AceReader, RocketReader, etc. In photoreading you recognize that you're deliberately making no consciouse connection to what you're \"reading,\" you're just looking at it and asummably remembering it \"subconsciously.\" I won't be able to decide if this is bogus or not until I have a lucid dream, though.
Pure Potent- I think you might be right about the varying degrees of awareness involved in LDs/Photoreading... that might be detrimental to the experiment.

Yeah.. it's speed-reading. I prefer speed-reading over photoreading simply because you get much more detail and comprehension over the content of the text.

Kind of like actual reading over "skimming" to me.

Lefnire wrote:
Now i know reading isn't allowed in dreams, but assuming you have complete access to your subconscious, couldn't you basically just glance at something (assuming that what I've heard of the subconscious having an infinite memory bank is true) and then be able to access every detail of that body via the subconscious? In otherwords, glance at a page using photoreading steps and then ask your subconscious or dream guide during an LD to relay all of that info to your conscious... you can read gazillions of books this way, study for tests, etc. Right?


In my experience with writing in dreams you know what it means just the characters are not right. As for subconscious accesses of information you can do that when your awake infact you do it all the time.[/b]

look at how smart this kid is!! i am so glad that i adopted him

actually, its kinda freaky, i was going to say that....

Lol.

Hey O'nus, do you think I should finish these CDs on photoreading? I'm not sure if it's very practical.

Originally posted by Squall
Lol.

Hey O'nus, do you think I should finish these CDs on photoreading? I'm not sure if it's very practical.

Of course, just another skill to add to your list.. might as well finish what you started.

Okay I'll see what this is all about then lol. Gotta go find them discs. Now that I consider it, it would probably help a lot with all the reading I'm gonna end up doing in college.