Thread: Should Lucid Dreaming be taught in schools?

At the grade school or high school level, I think you might run into problems from parents. We have seen again and again, people being told that LDing is occult and therefor evil.

I think a college elective on lucid dreaming would be really great! Maybe for a psychology credit?

Sorry, should've put an "undecided" or "maybe" or "eventually" bit in the poll, but - hey- first poll, not bad!

There, added your options, let me know if you would like them changed further

Hehe!

I just convinced myself it would be more interesting to force people to make a decision!

...then I noticed this! ...

Cheers for the thought though!

I went with eventually, i don't think its a good idea to do for now. Its not wide spread enuff so there will be skeptics to it for a start. But if it grows out enuff to be well known amongst the public then i think it could become of use to schools.

OK, undid the changers, sorry!

I don't think so, not enough time is spent on maths and stuff already, sometimes.

Sorry, mate. If I keep those options in then EVERYONE is gonna obviously put "eventually" as their answer and that's not the point. Maybe the word EVENTUALLY should be in the title? What do you think Seeker? - Should Lucid Dreaming be taught in schools eventually?

Well, it would get lots of lucid dreamers, and it would mean that your questions could be answered more easily maybe, and obviously after a while of teaching it in school, the methods would become quite good.

But of course, there would be so many lucid dreamers, that we wouldn't feel special because we can LD anymore!

I'm a little undecided...but I'll vote yes.

I think a college elective on lucid dreaming would be really great! Maybe for a psychology credit?[/b]

Ill say yes to that. I think high school and anything lower is to early imo

I would mention it a little in High School health class, but it would be ridiculous to devote an entire class to it unless it was a study in college.

I would mention it a little in High School health class, but it would be ridiculous to devote an entire class to it unless it was a study in college.[/b]

I fully agree, i think it would be good for a health class to cover it a little bit, just explain what it is and, really, what it isn't as well. If anyone's interested after that let them know where they can find more on LDing, like a website or something.

I was gonna see if i could start a "self improvement" club thing at school. Cover mostly ways to keep your mind and body fit such as meditation, breathing exercises, healthy sleep patterns (LDing would be covered with sleep), and also training programs and ways to vent bad emotions and such.

What are your thoughts on this? what else should be encluded/excluded?

Vox

I go to private school and I am now forbidden to speak of Lucid dreaming, dream related topics, controversial topics related to your mind, religion, politiics, drugs, on pain of expulsion. Then I tried to talk to my little brother about it and my Dad yelled at me and said to never mention it in his house again or he would kick me out.

Originally posted by ColtEtish
I go to private school and I am now forbidden to speak of Lucid dreaming, dream related topics, controversial topics related to your mind, religion, politiics, drugs, on pain of expulsion. Then I tried to talk to my little brother about it and my Dad yelled at me and said to never mention it in his house again or he would kick me out.

What country is that?

I go to private school and I am now forbidden to speak of Lucid dreaming, dream related topics, controversial topics related to your mind, religion, politiics, drugs, on pain of expulsion. Then I tried to talk to my little brother about it and my Dad yelled at me and said to never mention it in his house again or he would kick me out.[/b]

holy crap....
then i would really take precautions when visiting this site to remove any trace that you have been here.


i think that it could be incorperated into a psychology class of some sort, maybe in high school, and it would be possible to integrate it into college without much of a struggle, but no, i dont think its possible to inform the general public through school like that.

Am at work at the mo, but had this thought so I thought I'd post it and see what you guys thought of the idea?

Dya reckon it's gonna become recognised as something so useful that everyone should be taught how to LD?

Would the government accept it even if science does?

Would parents accept it/be sceptical of it?

Will religion get in the way?[/b]

yes coltetish is the best example i have ever saw, people will be skeptical about it, and it will get in the way of all sorts of religious people (Even though it has nothing to do with it)

once i gave a book report on stephen laberg's book in seventh grade.... private catholic school
anyways, he (the teacher) didnt think it involved religion...

Originally posted by lord soth
yes coltetish is the best example i have ever saw, people will be skeptical about it, and it will get in the way of all sorts of religious people (Even though it has nothing to do with it)

What's?

I think it depends if the (religious) person is new wave or old school! Old School - and you just have to look at the story of Joseph and his dreams to see the importance of 'not messing' with dreams and seeing them for their spriritual significance. New Wave religious people might see LDing as a way to explore religion and our relationship with God!

As an athiest I don't think it really matters what religious people think just those who are interested need get involved. But as we (non-religious people) are not allowed to stop religion from being accessible to everyone, neither should they be allowed to stop things like LDing!

So by law (surely) they have no choice but to stand aside and just watch! [/color]

I don’t think it should be taught in schools because:
-not enough time is spent on other topics already
-Its a personal thing and a choice you can’t really force people to do
-How would you gauge progress?

Maybe there should be some kind of thing where you get taught about 'life' and 'stuff' at school and LDing could be a small part of that but not a subject on its own. Saying that thought there’s a lot about life you have to learn on your own anyway.

I don't think it should be 'forced' on people, but I'm just thinking in the future it could be a choice. But it will have to be 'proven' to the world in some way (I think when it's on the 6 o'clock news (BBC1) people may start to accept it!).

I was just thinking of that bit in Starship Troopers when ESP is proven and people hold classes on the subject. In the future we may realise there is more to our minds than we think and people who have this power (LDing for a start) may start to treat those who don't differently. Although we're on our way to ending segregation, and prejudice in race and religion, will this be the new prejudice for the world? Therefore can the human race survive without levels of hierarchy? (This was most famously proven with the failure of Communism in Russia)...

...err, I think I just went off-topic a bit, sorry.

With the amount of people at school that would probally lie about progress and what they have experienced in regard to LD's, it would probally be a bad idea, it would most likely all be talk and not substantial information. More like a frenzy of stories and such.

Seeker, maybe there should be a disclaimer forum/message or something. So that when someone visits the site or forum, then can read a comprehensive articel on lucid dreaming, describing why it isn't a cult/evil or anything like that. Im sure the mass of people will not sift through posts to make an informed decision on lucid dreaming, they will simply read the intro and say that's evil, and go away.

An example could be member confessions, as to what benefits lucid dreaming has bought.

Originally posted by Xisdence
With the amount of people at school that would probally lie about progress and what they have experienced in regard to LD's, it would probally be a bad idea, it would most likely all be talk and not substantial information. More like a frenzy of stories and such.

That could be true.

I think that a club on LDing would be more realistic, but a college class on LDing would be nice, too. I've asked ppl here where I go to school if they've heard of LDing and quite a few have from psychology classes. I don't think they really know anything behind it besides what it is, but still. It's getting around. It probably would have to be a class based more on theory, rather than experience, but yah. It'd still be a good platform for those interested in it.

-Amé

Well I really didn't think much about the question before I voted. I voted no becuase i thought (like a lot of you) that it should not be in grade/middle/highschool. Parents would go nuts. Something in a college type class would be great though. Just think of it.... a class about lucid dreaming, you could fall asleep durring class and no one would care!!! It would be a great excuse for nap time in school. But seriously it would be a great thing to study in the higher level education system and I am sure it is already out there in one form or another.

yeah...

Well, I'm a coltetish Don't worry about my parents, as long as I don't talk about shit I can do whatever I want, besides drugs.

Imagine how easy the class would be to us, we would fly though it with our knowledge

I voted "yes" but I'm not sure why.

Hehe jk, but in a science class, ok sure thing. But not as a whole independent subject where "You MUST practice LD techniques for a grade" kinda thing. More like, objective studies.

Make sense? Sorry, in a hurry.