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    1. 11-17-2004 10:58 PM #1
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      Opposite of Lucid

      Ok, so last night, I had two vivid dreams, and woke up at about 2:30am, went the the restroom, settled back down in bed, and reapeated to myself, "I am going to go right back to dreaming, and be lucid. I will be aware that it's a dream. I will be aware that it's a dream" And do you know what happened??? I started to dream that I was dreaming, and in the dream's dream, I hurt one of my dogs. Then when I woke up from the dream in the dream, my poor pup was still hurt. it felt aweful. I couldn't understand how she could still be hurt, if it was jus a dream. Then when I woke up for real this morning, it took me a minute to realize the whole thing was a dream. For a sec I still thought my poochie was hurt until I looked over at her. Now shouldn't I have recognized that as soon as it happened, and become lucid??? It seems like it was the exact opposite. I believed it so much, and felt emotional pain. That really sucks!!! Aaaaahhhhh!!!
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    2. 11-18-2004 12:59 AM #2
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      I've had a few dreams that were vivid enough to the point of waking up, and despite knowing in the back of my head that it was just a dream, because I mean... obviously I just woke up from it, I still checked to see if what happened had any physical result. They just felt that ... lucid? haha, well obviously not, but vivid isn't a strong enough word at that point.

      Sounds a lot like your mind tricked you simply with the fact that you woke up from a dream in your dream. Therefore no triggers went off to say that you were still dreaming, and that the original dream was just another state of your sub conscious.

      I need to learn more about this...
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    3. 11-18-2004 08:21 AM #3
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      It's an interesting phenomenon called 'False Awakening' or FA for short
      There should be a lot of previous topics on it, if you do a search
      They can be used as dream signs - that can be used to become lucid

      It can get pretty freaky too - waking up from a dream and then waking up into yet another dream... and then only really waking up
      In fact, there was a guy on dreamlucidity.com (I think), who was an experienced LDer
      He went to sleep, dreamt of some people at his place (not lucid at all)... he went upstairs, and did a WILD
      He had a fully lucid dream, then woke up into the *previous* dream about his house and the people.
      He finished the normal dream, as usual, and then woke up to realise what just happened!

      Quite amazing thing really, the way dreams can be 'nested' inside each other...
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    4. 11-18-2004 08:27 AM #4
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      Oh man. That's happened quite a few times for me before. Not just with false awakenings, but doing something bad in a dream and waking up and the outcome of whatever I did is still there. And then waking up again.. haha sometimes it takes me 10 minutes after really waking up to realize that I had dreamed something and that it wasn't real.

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    5. 11-18-2004 08:35 AM #5
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      In the 'waking life' FA's are displayed really well. The main character seems to not be able to 'really' wake up, and gets sick of being in the dreams i think.
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    6. 11-18-2004 11:53 AM #6
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      Indeed...only that in Waking life they sort of present us with the posibility of him being dead and therefore being an inhabitant of the dream world for eternity...

      Anyway, yeah, FA can be pretty intense, mostly if they are vivid enough to not let you understand that you are still dreaming...
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    7. 11-19-2004 06:01 AM #7
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      wouldn't the opposite of lucid be unconscious...or something

      Like everyone described...you had a FA...they are annoying, but sometimes fun...i have spoken to kids who have had like 6 in ONE dream...crazyness...confusion...
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    8. 11-19-2004 06:14 AM #8
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      Originally posted by Truthbearer
      Indeed...only that in Waking life they sort of present us with the posibility of him being dead and therefore being an inhabitant of the dream world for eternity...
      Also the possiblity of him being alive, and therefore an inhabitant of the dream world for all eternity...
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    9. 11-19-2004 07:11 AM #9
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      Originally posted by Lowercase Society
      wouldn't the opposite of lucid be unconscious...or something
      Nope.
      IMHO, lucidity isn't a black or white thing.
      You're splitting your consciousness - sparking some conscious and logical areas of the brain, but leaving some of it dormant.
      Lucidity is a gray thing
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    10. 11-19-2004 03:39 PM #10
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      What I meant by opposite, lowercase society .... When your lucid, you have some amount of control, and awareness. In this dream with the FA, it was like the dream had control of me, and I believed anything it showed. It seemed like I went to sleep with the intent of controlling the dream, but instead, the opposite happened, and it controlled me.
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    11. 11-19-2004 03:45 PM #11
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      I'd be tempted to call that 'reality'
      Nah... thats not true, but it feels good to say it...
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    12. 11-20-2004 01:57 AM #12
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      I have also had dreams like this. I think False Awakenings are kinda cool actually. But sometimes it can be scary to wake up and not know if what you dreamt is reality or not.

      I'd be tempted to call that 'reality' *
      Nah... thats not true, but it feels good to say it...[/b]
      I was thinking the same thing
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    13. 11-20-2004 12:12 PM #13
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      Heh,
      Ive not actually had a FA , but this reminds me of my days of taking psychedelics .... Which could be described as abit like a lucid dream ... but you are actually awake.
      i often found i was in a trip inside a trip inside a trip , just like a dream within a dream within a dream ..... different levels of your subconcious.
      Yes, there are two paths you can go by, but in the long run
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