Thread: Is it possible?

Yes it is.

Some who are naturals can easily do that, and even without one being natural it is very possible. It would require a lot of dedication though.

Originally Posted by Specialis Sapientia

Yes it is.

Some who are naturals can easily do that, and even without one being natural it is very possible. It would require a lot of dedication though.

Well my first try was last night and I had one about 1-2 min. I was very dedicated and focused. Does that help?

It would probably be pretty hard to become lucid every night, but then again, there are dreams that we can't remember when we wake up, so who knows? Maybe we do become lucid every night...

Originally Posted by Thai Bungy

Well my first try was last night and I had one about 1-2 min. I was very dedicated and focused. Does that help?

Yes of course it helps, just thinking about it through the day will help, maybe doing some reality checks too.

I have seen many people try it for a week or two and then abandon it because it can take time to achieve. But one should really set the goal to be able to lucid dream consistently in the long run.

If you can't get a lucid dream every day, then fine, but do not quit yet. With determination ANYONE can lucid dream everyday.

Originally Posted by Specialis Sapientia

Some who are naturals can easily do that, and even without one being natural it is very possible.

I don't buy this at all..

Don't you mean that some who claim to be naturals, also claim to be able to LD at will? According to what you've read somewhere?

Trouble is, when you put such people on the spot, you get a different story.

You might then find someone who states that they have had periods of LD frequency, but that such a state didn't last. Plenty of people out there who cite hearsay as gospel, unfortunately.

Originally Posted by Specialis Sapientia

With determination ANYONE can lucid dream everyday.

Again, this is you citing hearsay "evidence", right? Stuff you've read, right?

IMO Such a thing is theoretically possible, but practically improbable.

Originally Posted by Oneiro

I don't buy this at all..

Don't you mean that some who claim to be naturals, also claim to be able to LD at will? According to what you've read somewhere?

Trouble is, when you put such people on the spot, you get a different story.

You might then find someone who states that they have had periods of LD frequency, but that such a state didn't last. Plenty of people out there who cite hearsay as gospel, unfortunately.



Again, this is you citing hearsay "evidence", right? Stuff you've read, right?

IMO Such a thing is theoretically possible, but practically improbable.

So why do you think it's "practically improbable"?

If you put more effort into lucid dreaming your LD frequency would no doubt go up over time, right? Then why not every night?

Originally Posted by Oneiro

I don't buy this at all..

Don't you mean that some who claim to be naturals, also claim to be able to LD at will? According to what you've read somewhere?

Trouble is, when you put such people on the spot, you get a different story.

You might then find someone who states that they have had periods of LD frequency, but that such a state didn't last. Plenty of people out there who cite hearsay as gospel, unfortunately.



Again, this is you citing hearsay "evidence", right? Stuff you've read, right?

IMO Such a thing is theoretically possible, but practically improbable.

Lol, are you saying that it is impossible to lucid dream every night??
Of course it's possible!!

It's not about Lucid dreaming at "Will", but just lucid dreaming every night, for example DILDs. I infact know a person who has lucid dreams every night, and even more have lucid dreams than regular dreams.

Are you jealous of naturals? Since you claim they don't exist.

Originally Posted by Specialis Sapientia

Lol, are you saying that it is impossible to lucid dream every night??
Of course it's possible!!.

I said that it was practically improbable. Your "proof" is hearsay.

Originally Posted by Specialis Sapientia

I infact know a person who has lucid dreams every night, and even more have lucid dreams than regular dreams.

No you don't. You know someone who says that they can and do, that's all. Just more hearsay.

Originally Posted by Specialis Sapientia

Are you jealous of naturals? Since you claim they don't exist.

Your problem with reading fnords continues from thread-to-thread. I never claimed that they don't exist. How could I? Everyone's definition of a "natural" is different.. there is no definitive definition. I have no idea what you mean when you say "natural".

If I were you, I wouldn't use others' hearsay experiences as "proof" of anything. That just makes you look silly. Far better to form opinions via the empirical, imo. You know.. do the work yourself, instead of making unfounded sweeping statements about stuff of which you know little. Get some experience in.

Originally Posted by Beeyahoi

So why do you think it's "practically improbable"?

Because IMO, most people who claim to be able to LD aren't actually very good at it, if at all.

Originally Posted by Beeyahoi

If you put more effort into lucid dreaming your LD frequency would no doubt go up over time, right? Then why not every night?

Yes, your frequency may go up, it may even reach every night for a period... but that period won't last.

There seems to be a preponderant common denominator amongst those who claim this "LD every night" stuff: they're all young, mostly teens it would appear. What do I mean by that?

Inexperience, that's what I mean. Give 'em 10-20 more years and then see if they still pose and posture around the web, "LDing every night".

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Originally Posted by Oneiro

Because IMO, most people who claim to be able to LD aren't actually very good at it, if at all.



Yes, your frequency may go up, it may even reach every night for a period... but that period won't last.

There seems to be a preponderant common denominator amongst those who claim this "LD every night" stuff: they're all young, mostly teens it would appear. What do I mean by that?

Inexperience, that's what I mean. Give 'em 10-20 more years and then see if they still pose and posture around the web, "LDing every night".

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''Won't last''?
Are you debuffing something unscientifically? You might want to back up claims like that with supporting evidence, especially if asking for proof towards a highly subjective and not thoroughly understood phenomenon, or maybe that's the reason you're not backing it up.

Sure, there are obviously people that lie about having lucid dreams. They might want to attract attention or fit in to a community which centres around that topic, and which merits skill in that regard.
Does that mean that everyone is lying? Of course they are!
Is it possible to even have lucid dreams? Who knows really, until they've had one? (not me for sure)

I want to point out that it is more cynical than sceptical to force assumption that specifically teenagers lie about having lucid dreams frequently. In fact, I'd say absurd to even assume that everyone who claims so is 'always young', but perhaps I'm speaking from a bias perspective.

And ironically in the posing and posturing regard, you've been here since 2005?