From comparing LDs I learnt about one thing that happens once in a while for everybody.
It feels like loss of control over your bodily movements. Most of the time it feels as if you're dragged in some direction at a regular speed, and you can't stop it. Sometimes it feels as if you're flying in a certain direction, but it's always uncontrollable, and you can't stop it. You aren't limited to be dragged through the empty space, if it happens that you're dragged in the direction of a wall you'll be dragged right through it. It can start at once when you become lucid, or it can start suddenly in the course of a LD.
Sometimes loss of bodily control is not so direct but can be noticed when you try to stand on one spot for a while: you notice that you don't really stand but walk a little.
Does it have any name at all? I wonder how it can be referred to.
I have similar feelings, sometimes im being dragged somewhere, sometimes i cant walk past a certain point, it's a curiosity that happens occasionally to me as well.
Its most likely just your rampant subconscious.
Also I think if you are worried about it/expecting it its more likely to happen.
The dream world is never really in a state of complete rest because your mind is constantly on the go, so I think that is probably why it happens. Even your own body is just part of the dream, so it might be hard sometimes to always keep it still.
Also I think if you are worried about it/expecting it its more likely to happen.
I'm sure that I wasn't ever worried about it, it's a rare thing to happen.
The question still stands, does it have a name? It must have sprung up in discussions before and must have been called something... "The feeling of being uncontrollably dragged in a certain direction at regular speed" isn't short enough
This is a relatively common hallucination that people get during sleep paralysis, but this has never happened to me in a dream and I don't think I've read about it being a very experience during lucid dreams.
This is a relatively common hallucination that people get during sleep paralysis, but this has never happened to me in a dream and I don't think I've read about it being a very experience during lucid dreams.
What do you mean by a common hallucination during SP? If I get you right, then you must be speaking about a feeling of being ripped out\thrown out of your body? Or not?
If so then this is not the same. A feeling of being ripped out\thrown out happened to me during LDs, too, not only during SP, and in the absence of body it always resulted in a feeling as if I'm being ripped out of my dream. In this case the dream got shattered so much that every time I slid from the dream into SP.
As for the sensation of being dragged, I'm surprised that it's rare, really, I read about it a few times in past...
But I just luckily happened to find a description while reading a book by some D. Degracia that I downloaded online. The author calls it "the wind":
Finally, there is one last thing to mention about moving during your OOBE. This is something I have encountered many, many times. What happens is it seems like a gust of wind will grab you and pull you along. It is almost as if some kind of magnetic force or something has captured you and is pulling you.
Then he describes it:
...a strong wind came out of nowhere and began to drag me along. I was thoroughly baffled and had no idea what was going on. Yet this wind pulled me along, backwards, and I remember moving very quickly through the walls of the house outside. I passed houses for a short while and then was being pulled through the forest, passing mostly pine trees.
It really sounds like the same thing that I had in mind.
Every time it happened to me it ended up with waking up. I decided that it was thanx to inability to control the dream anymore and rapid uncontrollable change of dream imagery that eventually tore the dream apart. Then I decided that maybe it's some kind of natural sensation that happens before awakening and may occasionally be felt within the dream.
But if you say that you could stop it and proceed with the dream, then it's all wrong. I can't remember ever reading about what happened after it, however, you're the first one to say that you could stop it and do something. So tell me please what happened after you've stopped it, was the LD long and stable, wasn't it falling apart at all?
This is a relatively common hallucination that people get during sleep paralysis, but this has never happened to me in a dream and I don't think I've read about it being a very experience during lucid dreams.
It hasn't happened to me either, but I fear I may now that you have mentioned it... it probably will happen. in time I guess.
But if you say that you could stop it and proceed with the dream, then it's all wrong. I can't remember ever reading about what happened after it, however, you're the first one to say that you could stop it and do something. So tell me please what happened after you've stopped it, was the LD long and stable, wasn't it falling apart at all?
After I stopped it, I stabilized the dream. It was as long and stable as my other dreams.
I think it starts to happen when you're waking up. You're beginning to feel your physical body, and you're laying on your side, which makes you feel like you're pulled in a specific direction? It's my theory, don't know if it's correct though.
Additional comments by respondents indicated that these experiences were rarely the rather passive sensations suggestions by the term ‘‘floating,’’ but often consisted of more vigorous sensations of flying, acceleration, and even wrenching of the ‘‘person’’ from his or her body. In response to questions about floating sensations respondents spontaneously reported a variety of inertial forces acting on them, which they described as rising, lifting, falling, flying, spinning, and swirling sensations or similar to going up or down in an elevator or an escalator, being hurled through a tunnel, or simply accelerating and decelerating rapidly. Associated feelings of light-headedness and dizziness were also occasionally described. The impressions of strong inertial forces may also explain why some respondents experienced the out-of-body experience as a violent extraction of the self from the body. Several people reported feeling forcibly pulled or sucked from their bodies, sometimes through the forehead and sometimes through the feet, and one person described a sensation of ‘‘falling out of’’ his body.
Cheyne, J.A., Rueffer, S.D., & Newby-Clark, I.R. (1999) Hypnagogic and hypnopompic hallucinations during sleep paralysis: neurological and cultural construction of the night-mare. Consciousness and Cognition, 8, 319-337.
The Waterloo Unusual Sleep Experiences Scale includes items assessing frequency and intensity of SP episodes and of a variety of hallucinoid experiences. The 18 specific different hallucination types assessed were: sensed presence, auditory, visual, and tactile hallucinations, hallucinations that the bedding is moving or being pulled, breathing constriction, choking, pressure on the chest, or other body part, pain,
death thoughts, floating, flying, and falling sensations, OBEs, and autoscopy, and illusions of motor movement.
Cheyne, J.A. (2005) Sleep paralysis episode frequency and number, types, and structure of associated hallucinations. J. Sleep Res., 14, 319-324.
Intruder experiences involve a feeling of a presence (FP: defined for participants as a feeling of something present, independent of actually seeing or hearing something) and sensory (Visual, Auditory, and Tactile = VAT) hallucinations as well as a specific hallucination that something is pulling at the bedcovers.
Incubus experiences include difficulty breathing, feelings of suffocation, smothering, or choking, sensations of pressure (typically on the chest), pain, and thoughts of immanent death. For both types of experiences, these sensations occur both as isolated sensations and as more elaborate narratives.
Cheyne, J.A. & Girard, T.A. (2007) Paranoid delusions and threatening hallucinations: A prospective study of sleep paralysis experiences. Consciousness and Cognition, 16, 959–974.
Intensity measures for each of the major hallucination types (Intruder,Incubus,and STO) were created by taking the mean of their constituent hallucination subtypes. These subtypes were: for the Intruder factor: sensed presence,auditory,visual, and tactile hallucinations,as well as hallucinations that the bedding is moving or being pulled; for the Incubus factor: breathing constriction,smothering or choking feelings,pressure on the chest,or other body part, and pain; and for the STO factor: floating, flying,and falling sensations,out-of body experiences,and autoscopy,as well as illusions of movement,such as sitting up, getting out of bed, and walking
around the room.
Cheyne, J.A. (2002). Situational factors affecting sleep paralysis and associated hallucinations: position and timing effects. J. Sleep Res., 11, 169-177.
Originally Posted by Video_Junkie
Let me start by saying that I have never had a 'pleasant' hyonogig experience. A few years ago I went searching online to find out what was happening to me, and found out the name for it was most likely hypnogogia. I would be asleep, or I guess almost asleep' and then I would feel paralyzed or more accurately held down by a malicious presence while I was forced out of my body. Each and every experience is accompanied by the feeling of an evil presence. There is no joy here. The worst one i ever experienced was last year when I was falling asleep and felt the familiar paralysis as I rolled out of my body and onto the floor. It was as though I was in 2 places at once (asleep on the bed AND awake on the floor). I tried crawling along the floor into the corner of the room when a hand grabbed my arm and strating pulling me toward it very roughly. Luckily, I jolted back awake. I was scared as hell. It felt very real and I was convinced there was some evil spirit trying to'get' me. Another time I was asleep and then got that paralysis and heard footstpes coming up the stairs while something strong held me down again, and a light in the hallway was on that should not have been. When I awoke, the light was not on and everything was as it should be. I cannot stress enough how REAL the experience is, however.
Originally Posted by Video_Junkie
Today I had another involuntary session. This never fails: I awakw earlier than normal, go downstairs andhave a coffee, smoke etc....then an hour later I go back to bed for a 'nap'. I ALWAYS get the out of body LD state when I do this, and today was no exception. But today I took your advice and eliminated my fear and 'went with it'. It started with obligatory ringing in my ears, which then turned to a rather turbulent vibration feeling in my whole body, and then the feeling of something pulling my feet and pulling my astral body out of my real body via my feet. I sank to the floor, as usual. Then I was flaoting around the room. I mean, all over. Every corner, the ceiling and everything.
*All I have time to look up so far. Will find more as time permits.*
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