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      I absolutely agree. My best lucid dreams are ones where I wasn't completely "lucid" so to speak, because I treated my dream characters as real human beings, even though I knew I was dreaming. It is a difficult state to capture, because I was in a sense lucid, even as I interacted with everyone as if they were real, and even made a friend.

      I don't have a problem with others acting completely god-like in their dreams. It's their mind, and they can do what they want. However, I am much more interested in the use of dreaming like you suggested; peaceful exploration. Just looking is enough for me. My favorite lucid dream was one where I stared at the night sky looking at galaxies that were around the sky, and there was a slight neon red glow as if I were in a sort of nebula. I do enjoy one "god-like" power- flight. Flight to me is just amazing, real life or in a dream. It is so peaceful and surreal, and whenever I fly in an airliner I always wonder why people at the window seats treat it as such a boring thing, busting out their laptops soon as the electronics are allowed again and missing out on a much more gorgeous view. But I'm getting off-topic.

      Peacefully flying, I feel the same way you do. No need for me to get into epic firefights. I wake up sad sometimes, because I am not a very good artist, and can't capture the images (that is the thing I don't like about dreaming, text can never explain it just right). Anyway, I'm sorry about this post, I've been writing it in a sort of meditative state because you really got me back to that lucid dream feeling. I've had a bit of a dry spell and I can really remember the feeling now.

      Hope you all don't mind, but I did draw a picture inspired by dreaming, but just one. Top down perspective, because unfortunately I can't draw in 3D.

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      Dreams: Vessels for exploring the deepest regions of the mind.
      Haven't had a lucid dream in 3 years, and I'm looking to get back into it.

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      i agree with yosemine and dream scientist here...

      i think it would be boring to have a world where you had wholesome power, and imagined it all by yourself. if you ever tried sitting in front of a blank piece of paper trying to think of something to draw you know how awful it is... you usually end up drawing the same things. you'd never be inspired if you were constantly trying to come up with something.

      i would recommend just changing your mindset. don't think of a lucid dream as something you have complete control over.. because i think many of us feel that the unknown elements of our normal dreams led us to finding a way to explore them more lucidly. try and let the dream have it's own control, at least as much as you have. let it bring things to you, and bring things to the dream. if we constantly expect things from our subconscious, we will never learn from it - our subconscious is always trying to tell us things.. let it. listen to it. and then.. create and build from the inspiration it gives you.

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      I have gotten very bored with lucid dreams. So I have stopped practicing many times. Though, they were still a part of my life, I couldnt get rid of them, because, well they just kept happening. Nightly. So I figured since I couldnt get rid of them (not that I'd want to, I just didnt intend to have them) I figured I might as well try something new, now that I'm bored. Well..Your SUPPOSED to be paralyzed when your asleep. But actually I wanted to try moving my body. But without waking up.

      Sounds impossible.

      Well, I was in an LD, and I decided to try it. I felt my body, and I moved it a little. The dream just faded a slight bit. I re stabalized, and sat up in bed, and tried to quickly get up and run. By the time I got up I was awake. But it was a good run.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Unelias View Post
      It seems that most of the people want to experience first-hand the omnipotence in their dreams, which is completely understandable as we are egoistic humans. However, only a person with no imagination or curiosity will be satisfied with that much. ... I just can't get the idea of being bored while lucid dreaming.
      Good point. Omnipotent, that's what I was thinking. Might be fun for awhile, but is shallow. So it will lead to boredom. It's not fulfilling. On the other hand a creative person (generally) should have no such boredom. The question then is at the source, not the destination. What do we want before we even begin? You made a good point! We are what determines whether lucid dreaming is boring or exciting.

      Quote Originally Posted by Arutad View Post
      The same, but your ideas won't work for me either They feel like the same old power. No matter what you're doing in dreams, the feeling of awe that accompanies your actions is drawn from the feeling of "wow it's a creation of my mind"! Somehow I lost this feeling.
      Yes, that feeling goes away after awhile. Just like "wow, I'm married!" goes away after awhile. xD But after that, I believe you can mature your experiences with lucid dreaming. I was just trying to get away from "omnipotency" which I discovered was not fulfilling for me.

      Quote Originally Posted by Arutad View Post
      What mood are you doing it with?
      I'd have to say, a mood that doesn't give up appreciating the mind and the possibilities of lucid dreaming.

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      but what to do in a LD is a sore spot for me.
      I gotcha. Well, are you uninspired in real life? Personally I think you have to have the important things in real life first, before we can take flights of fantasy and get any enjoyment from them.

      Quote Originally Posted by Yosemine View Post
      My favorite lucid dream was one where I stared at the night sky looking at galaxies that were around the sky, and there was a slight neon red glow as if I were in a sort of nebula.
      Nice

      Quote Originally Posted by Yosemine View Post
      I do enjoy one "god-like" power- flight.
      Okay, okay, nothing beats a good flight now and then. Your picture does capture the idea pretty well. Another similar for me is giant suspended flips on a sandy beach. Very likely because I used to live on the beach and jumped on a trampoline every day of my childhood.

      Quote Originally Posted by Yosemine View Post
      I absolutely agree. My best lucid dreams are ones where I wasn't completely "lucid" so to speak, because I treated my dream characters as real human beings, even though I knew I was dreaming.
      My best were the same. I prefer it that way, come to think of it.

      Quote Originally Posted by adrift View Post
      i would recommend just changing your mindset. don't think of a lucid dream as something you have complete control over ... try and let the dream have it's own control, at least as much as you have. let it bring things to you, and bring things to the dream. if we constantly expect things from our subconscious, we will never learn from it - our subconscious is always trying to tell us things.. let it. listen to it. and then.. create and build from the inspiration it gives you.

      Yes, you all reminded me that even my ideas were a bit controlling. I do want to try the stabilizing scenes idea. But now I really see the benefit in less control! Control only over yourself, and perhaps preparing a general idea and watching it unfold. Yes you can just take whatever your subconscious gives you. But I like the idea of sort of planting a seed and watching it bloom into a dream-story, while you remain lucid and play out some role therein. Even if that role is just being an observer.

      For example, I want to find myself on a rainy city street, with the idea that I will have to find someone I've been missing. I know who that person is, I've just never met her. I really want to talk, because I know that she is the kind of person who will listen with care. I want to listen to her and her past. I want to know who she is on the inside even more.

      Is this controlling? There are some specifics laid out. But there's a large element of mystery. I don't really know what the city looks like. I don't know where she is, or what other kinds of people might be crowding the streets. Or will they be empty streets? Is she on the third floor? In a hotel room? In a cardboard box? What will she tell me? The whole conversation will not be predetermined.

      Thank you all for the reminder about less control. Keep up the LDs.
      Last edited by mrToad; 07-14-2009 at 04:18 PM.

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