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      Lucid dreaming as a study enhancer?

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      Welcome to dreamviews naiad780

      I have indeed. More for creativity areas as opposed to school - since I am not in school.

      I have also heard of a tecnique by UMJ ( a member) called photo reading. It has bean somthing I've been wanting to try but have not had the time.
      Try learning stradegies.com if your interested in that.

      But if you have a specific problem ponder over it before you go to sleep and try and make it the last thing you think about.

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      You know, that's a wonderful idea. It had never occured to me that lucid dreams could be used in that brilliant way. I would probably use it in a more creative way, myself also, but thank you for bringing that point up.
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      Back in high school, I had a lucid dream where I jumped atop and conquered a city-block sized sheet of calculus homework... I'm not sure if that was a study enhancer, but it probably relieved some stress and made class the next day more enjoyable.

      Do you think problem solving in a LD could work if you manifested an expert in the field in which you're having trouble? It would be someone your mind would trust as knowledgeable and with easy access to the answer, so it might make discovering the answer quicker and easier. For instance, if I was having trouble with a physics problem, I might create a classroom with Einstein standing at the board, ready to write out the answer.

      I've never actually tried this, but it might be worth a shot. You've got a good idea, Naiad.
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      I remember reading a post somewhere on this forum about someone who studied chemistry going on sleep binges of 30 hours or more to study chem in his sleep, and every once in a while he would sit up and spout out some gibberish with random formulas and such. I wish I could remember where I saw that...

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      My logic does not work perfectly in the dream states, so I dont see how it can be of use. Also, how can you learn something you don't know without resources? It just doesn't make sense.
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      Originally posted by Peregrinus
      Back in high school, I had a lucid dream where I jumped atop and conquered a city-block sized sheet of calculus homework... I'm not sure if that was a study enhancer, but it probably relieved some stress and made class the next day more enjoyable.

      Do you think problem solving in a LD could work if you manifested an expert in the field in which you're having trouble? It would be someone your mind would trust as knowledgeable and with easy access to the answer, so it might make discovering the answer quicker and easier. For instance, if I was having trouble with a physics problem, I might create a classroom with Einstein standing at the board, ready to write out the answer.

      I've never actually tried this, but it might be worth a shot. You've got a good idea, Naiad.
      Kind of like tricking your mind???
      I think that your own brain would have to possess the answer. Meaning that a dream character doesn't have the answer. I don't think this is what you were saying. But the process could tap deep down into your subconcious and withdraw wisdom you never realized you had.

      I like this idea. Who would I call opon

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      Originally posted by Howetzer
      Kind of like tricking your mind???
      I think that your own brain would have to possess the answer. Meaning that a dream character doesn't have the answer. I don't think this is what you were saying. But the process could tap deep down into your subconcious and withdraw wisdom you never realized you had.

      I like this idea. Who would I call opon
      No, that's exactly what I was saying. A dream is just a manifestation of your mind, so how else could you possibly come up with an answer in a dream if you didn't already possess the constituent parts of the answer? Usually when I'm having problems with physics and math homework, it's not because I lack the knowledge necessary to find the answer, but that I'm just not looking at the problem in the correct way. And almost inevitably when I realize the answer in almost a moment of epiphany, I myself because in hindsight it seems so natural and obvious. But when first attacking such a problem, it can appear almost impossible. The idea was exactly to trick the subconscious into thinking that the answer is easy-- in fact, that it is already known by this DC expert standing helpfully before you as your own private Nobel Laureate tutor.

      So if the person having the problem is in that position because he or she failed to study the material, that method I described won't help, but if s/he has done all the studying necessary to solve the problem, but just can't seem to put it all together coherently and usefully, that "manifest and expert" method might be worth a shot.
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      I think you may have misunderstood the way I worded it.
      I said -kind of like tricking your mind? I am saying the exact same thing you are in a differant way.
      I think that your own brain would have to possess the answer. Meaning that a dream character doesn't have the answer. [/b]
      Meaning that if you do not already have the answer somewhere in the back of your mind that it will not just magically appear. You are just using your subconcious to solve the problem. And qiuite possibly an intuitive part of your brain might be able to put together answers that your concious mind might otherwise have not been able to.

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      I've used LD to help playing the piano. I learn a piece on the piano - I learn the notes and practice it, there are always some sticking points, hesitations etc. Once I have played it through in a LD I can play it significantly better in real life - it gets me past the hesitations etc.

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      Originally posted by jinxsi
      I've used LD to help playing the piano. I learn a piece on the piano - I learn the notes and practice it, there are always some sticking points, hesitations etc. Once I have played it through in a LD I can play it significantly better in real life - it gets me past the hesitations etc.

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      That is great. How do you maintain such a stable atmosphere.
      I have tried to improve my chess game but every time I cannot call up a character to play against so I try to play against myself. Which is actually what I would be doing anyway if dream Characters are manifestations of ourselves. Anyway, I can only have a certain amount of ability before things start to go adrift.

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      Originally posted by Howetzer+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Howetzer)</div>
      That is great. How do you maintain such a stable atmosphere. [/b]
      I have no idea. I learn the old fashioned way, learn the notes off by heart and then practice and practice until it sounds OK. Once the first part is done then LD can help the second part.


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      I have tried to improve my chess game but every time I cannot call up a character to play against so I try to play against myself. Which is actually what I would be doing anyway if dream Characters are manifestations of ourselves. Anyway, I can only have a certain amount of ability before things start to go adrift.
      That sounds really tough, I doubt whether I could play chess in an LD, each time I looked at the board it would be different. ..and I wouldn't be able to cheat with my chess computer

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      Originally posted by jinxsi
      That sounds really tough, I doubt whether I could play chess in an LD, each time I looked at the board it would be different. Confused ..and I wouldn't be able to cheat with my chess computer
      jinxsi, Do you not get the same results as you look at the keys of a piano?

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      Originally posted by Howetzer


      jinxsi, Do you not get the same results as you look at the keys of a piano?
      nope. Once your familiar with the order of the keys you dont expect them to move - that would be wierd.

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      Originally posted by naiad780
      What the ....? I have 13 replies to this topic and I never received emails telling me about them, even though I have that option checked in my profile here.

      Huh .... well, yes, I'm not talking about substituting lucid dreaming for actual study or homework. I'm referring to those moments when you know that you almost understand a concept, but your brain just isn't making some crucial connection.

      I'll definitely have to try the manifesting an expert trick, thanks
      We were hoping you were comiing back naiad780. And it is good you did because we were apparently going of of the idea.
      So you mean to use your subconcious as a means to breach a mnemonic state that you could not otherwise with just your conciuos, or being awake.

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      Originally posted by jinxsi+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(jinxsi)</div>
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      jinxsi, Do you not get the same results as you look at the keys of a piano?
      nope. Once your familiar with the order of the keys you dont expect them to move - that would be wierd.

      jinxsi[/b]
      I guess it would be utterly immpossible to know where all the pieces could go
      In fact I have not gotten much farther than focusing on the starting positions and maybe move D4, E6 getting blurry ...... crap. I am awake.
      I guess with playing with yourself, you can't loose at least.
      Playing Chess that is

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      Originally posted by Howetzer
      We were hoping you were comiing back naiad780. And it is good you did because we were apparently going of of the idea.So you mean to use your subconcious as a means to breach a mnemonic state that you could not otherwise with just your conciuos, or being awake.
      Thanks Yes, that's pretty much what I mean. Have you ever tried to learn a mathematical concept and at one point you go, "Aha!" and you understand, and then 2 days later it doesn't make sense anymore? It's like it just doesn't anchor in your brain.

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      Thanks Yes, that's pretty much what I mean. Have you ever tried to learn a mathematical concept and at one point you go, "Aha!" and you understand, and then 2 days later it doesn't make sense anymore? It's like it just doesn't anchor in your brain.[/quote]

      Yes I do know what you are talikng about. The brain is an odd argan to say the least. Why can somthing just click & like you said, "Aha!" And then if you don't tend to use what you learn you loose it.

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