Thread: Sild *subliminal Technique*

Hey, thanks for posting this up it seems like it could possibly be good, I'm hoping this will work for me anyway

I'm just wondering if any of the people who have tried this has any positive feedback?

Hmm Maybe a little addition to this Technique.

I know that we are more susceptible to pick up these images when we are in a trance: When we are submerged in our Subconcious ( as experienced while thinking about a thought so much we kind of drift away from reality and what is happening around us; Dayly Trance )

I know for this reason the best time to meditate with autosuggestion and selfhypnosis is in the morning JUST after you awoke, since when you are just awake you are still a little ''woozie''. This woozieness is you not Completely having returned from your Dreaming mind (Subconcious) yet.

Perhaps this technique works even better when done Early in the morning right after awakening, with some burning insence and those ambient tracks playing. It might get you in an EVEN deeper trance.

For those of us who do smoke some marijuana occasionally: This, in my experience, can lead to real trance like higher states ( provided you smoke Good Quality weed since Some weed just gets you very drowsy and tired and Less able to concentrate, while good weed makes my mind nice and clear yet very deeply trance-like sensation. Add it up to Being deep in thoughts and remaining deep in thoughts, Ambient Music, Insence and Early Morning use of BrainBullet and it might get you super-susceptible to the subliminal messages. I also found Tea calms me down...anything slighlty entrancing, whatever does that for you, could be added up
to induce a deep trance while running BrainBullet.

Hey Ska,

Very true. In fact, after waking up every morning that's the time I usually start doing my daily inner voice affirmations to help me in other areas of my life since you are very susceptible during this time just as you said. I have gone deeper into trances around this time as well with certain audio files. For anyone trying this technique I highly recommend doing it in the morning just like SKA said. I'll have to try this out too, I haven't thought about it. Thanks for reminding me

Updated technique with this tip, thanks SKA

Originally Posted by Sythix

Hey Ska,

Very true. In fact, after waking up every morning that's the time I usually start doing my daily inner voice affirmations to help me in other areas of my life since you are very susceptible during this time just as you said. I have gone deeper into trances around this time as well with certain audio files. For anyone trying this technique I highly recommend doing it in the morning just like SKA said. I'll have to try this out too, I haven't thought about it. Thanks for reminding me
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Yeah however this Differs from person to person. While One group of people seem to be very dreamy right after awakening, some people are very awake all of a sudden. I think this can be tampered with though by a Little Sleep Shortage. So for those people who aren't completely spaced out as they wake up ( Like I am ) Try, for one night, Going to bed 2 hours later than Usual and Wake yourself up after 5 hours of sleep or so. You don't want to deprive too much sleep either as it would send you in a deep coma-like sleep and leave you awoken not having a clue of what you dreamt and being full awake. Doodlee around a bit to see what may work.

You want to awaken very slowly so that the dreaming sensation isn't gone before your mind awakens. Let your body lay at peace and don't open your eyes as you are awake. Just tell yourself you are awake in your mind when you are. This Slow Transition from early morning REMsleep to waking state will defenitely help you stay in the Dreaming Mind longer. This helps Improve Dream Recall drastically too BTW since you're not so far awoken from your dreams yet and are still in touch.

Actually I found that out this morning, and I'm going to keep it up to mprove my DreamRecall.
Tomorrow Morning, I'll do it again and try to maintain and strengthen my ''dreamyness'' and SkinTemperature shower (which I find very calming and entrancing...me and my Water Obsession ) Then I shall run BrainBullet with the Ambient Music, Incense, a very comfortable posture and the fattest marijuana joint I have ever smoked to increase the dream-trance state to a maximum.

However Marijuana also seems to cloud the overal recall so I'll have to take note of the effect smoking a joint will have on my Dreamyness/Dreamrecall. Usually I don't find it that a problem at all... We'll see.

Originally Posted by horsesims2000

Ok, I installed it and opened it. I set the settings and it closed itself. Now it will not open back up, could someone please tell me how to fix this problem? Thanks.
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It's the orange/coin like thing in your process line.

I started to try this yesturday, but only got in 10 minutes of it, because I had to turn of the computer. I've been running it since I woke up. I did one thing to it: I added the message 'Am I dreaming?' to it. Hope it helps a little, because I often forget to ask myself that during the day. I put it to 10 milliseconds, but I found that I could read most of the message that way. For me, it's probaly better on 20.

Also, I put it 'centered in active window'. But I don't know how much this works, because I never look RIGHT in the middle of the screen. I usualy read something in a random part.. but the random choice of Brain Bullet wouldn't be too effective. They should have made a 'where your mouse pointer is' option.

You guys may want to double check it is on the dream setting because I have gone into the edit text thing while the dream is checked and it is running the criticism one... lol. So if that is happening just check the dream thing twice.

Originally Posted by Holland

Also, I put it 'centered in active window'. But I don't know how much this works, because I never look RIGHT in the middle of the screen. I usualy read something in a random part.. but the random choice of Brain Bullet wouldn't be too effective. They should have made a 'where your mouse pointer is' option.
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Hey Holland,

That's no problem as long as the subliminals flash within eye sight they should work. That would've been a better option, I agree.

Thanks man, ill have to try it out



edit: wow that song and visualization makes me feel like im about to fall asleep.
nice pic for a mp3


edit2: Nice, also, I suggest to people to not read the Messages in the list. Just let them play on the screen. if you already KNOW what the messages say, they will usually have a damper effect on you.... as if you dont know what they say : better

POSSIBLE positive effect of Subliminal Messaging by BrainBullet. I have no 100% proof that it was the cause but 2 nights in a row after using Brainbullet I had VERY LOW lucidity which I lost very quickly again. But I DID experience Lucidity, which I haven't for a REALLY long time.
In both dreams I found myself spontaniously and automatically, without really thinking about it, doing RC's spontaniously and watching hem fail; proving I am dreaming.( In BrainBullet I made up a Lucid Dreaming Message sheet. Some of the Messages were: ''Check your Reality!'', ''Do an RC!''and ''Am I dreaming?'' ) If only for a split second it seems a radical improvement in dreamrecall and lucidity overall.

Here you can read a short DreamJournal entry of those last two dreams I had after using BrainBullet.

Originally Posted by Holland

Also, I put it 'centered in active window'.
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Try putting it on ''randomly through the screen'' so you won't know where it'll pop up. Just let it pop up and don't pay much attention to it and do something else in the meanwhile.


One more Interresting Note on Subliminal Messaging:
I read somewhere here that Symbols are also suitable for subliminal messaging such as the desert image being flashed in a Coca Cola Commercial. Since Our mind associates symbols with other things: Desert - Thirst, Seagull - Beach, Bird - Flight..etc

Now last night I was walking home. Now I have Dreadlocks. And I passed a car in which one guy sat and on the other side a father and son stood outside talking. The boy looked at me as I passed them by and then when I passed them I hear him say ''Dad let's gt in the car and listen some reggae''

Then it hit me> Dreadlocks is something the mind will usually quickly associate with Reggae .
So in this Case it might have been so that the boy seeing my Dreadlocks Subconciously fed the Desire to Listen to Reggae since Dreadlocks are always associated with rastafari and reggae N stuff.

I found that very interresting. Maybe I could use such ''symbols'' myself.

wow this is really cool... but why do i suddenly want to buy a new pair of nikes?

I've been trying this for 2 days and it hasn't worked yet, but I will not stop, I'll keep trying for maybe another week.

Has anyone had any success after trying this?

Originally Posted by Rory

I've been trying this for 2 days and it hasn't worked yet, but I will not stop, I'll keep trying for maybe another week.

Has anyone had any success after trying this?
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Since I've been using it, I've had a couple of prelucid dreams where I have noticed something is wrong, but I just can't get a grip that 'I'm dreaming!'. That, for me, is a fairly big step considering that I've started trying to get a lucid dream a month ago and I have not had a strong/long lucid dream yet. It's not bothering me, so I'm going to continue to use it (if it's actualy helping me or I just think it's helping me xD). I've been running it all the time, so I forget it's there.

Good luck.

^^^Yeah me too I hate it when that happens. A while ago, I had a dream where my sensei (karate teacher...) was the manager of a Wendy's. I said to myself, "Something is wierd." but I figured it was normal and went on with the ooooooddddddddddddd dream.

Originally Posted by Holland

Since I've been using it, I've had a couple of prelucid dreams where I have noticed something is wrong, but I just can't get a grip that 'I'm dreaming!'. That, for me, is a fairly big step considering that I've started trying to get a lucid dream a month ago and I have not had a strong/long lucid dream yet. It's not bothering me, so I'm going to continue to use it (if it's actualy helping me or I just think it's helping me xD). I've been running it all the time, so I forget it's there.

Good luck.
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yeah man me 2. Actually one JUST non Lucid Dream was the result> I Did an RC, watched it fail, proving to me that I was dreaming, Barely realising I was dreaming and then getting sucked along the normal course of the dream again. But I don't see it as Frustrating at all: In fact I see it as though I made a shitload of improvement. and the SILD-technique may be co-responsible for it. I am no scientist doing research on this so I can't be a 100% sure.

Really REALLY weird...

The first day after using it while playing video games with friends online for about 3 hours... here are the results:

I had a dream, where I was fighting terrorists, where I thought, "Why is this happening? This wouldn't happen in real life! It must be a dream!" But, before I my mind could make anything out, something else happened, and it kept going like this on and on.

And near the end of the dream, one of the terrorists ran up to me and said, "This is a dream idiot! Become lucid!"

I don't know HOW I missed that...

hmmz how interresting, People's dreams here generally seem to be somewhat affected by the SILD. I might try making the Subliminal Messages Shorter and more Obvious..Like '' REMEMBER YOUR DREAMS!'' and '' RECOGNISE THE DREAMSTATE!''

perhaps that'd work better. Now can anyone think of any SYMBOLS that our minds may associate with Dreaming? Just like Seeing Dreadlocks and suddenly wanting to put on Reggae music.

If I could find such a symbol, which my mind automatically associates with Dreaming I would like to Incubate that ito my dreams so it might give me a clue of that I'm dreaming.

I started using a subliminal messaging program about a week ago.

So far, it has improved recall and vividness, but it hasn't given lucidity yet.

Also, I've been able to alter the themes of my non lucids by making my own messages.

It could just be the placebo effect, but even if it is, it's doing the job.

I am going to give this a shot. The mp3 is really cool. It makes me zone out, sort of like stairing into space or before a wild. Thanks for the links.

I have found that since I started using this that I can't stay awake once I notice that I'm dreaming, and I always forget the dream.

Just like the others, It seem that my dream recall vividness is greatly increased...very increased, and also i add the script "I Will fall asleep easily" because i had a little bit of sleep disorder, and hey it worked, i really sleep so easily yesterday, and I think we must try to to believe and try to accept the suggestion that given, in order for program to work well. In my country, we had a reality tv show about hypnosism and wheter it's real or fake, everyone under hypnosism will do everything that is suggested by the hypnosizer, such as be a chicken, be an elvis presley only when you heard a certain song, or even remember the position of all the book in book store and re-arranged them in right order, just imagine how many books in one shelf of a bookstore(about 200 book). I will try this program everyday and hey i got sinuses maybe i can get rid of it ! hmmm... can't wait for my first Lucid (it's been a week without no lucid result). OH yeah i found a great visualization in winamp(avs) and it called "Tag - Trance level" i feel so trance when I use winamp and listen to the mp3 and activate the brain bullet.....

I've been using this thing for 4 days, and I had a lucid dream this night. You can read my dream in my dreamjournal very soon. Link will be here soon.

IMO
be very carefull with subliminal messages they can be harmful at times.
just voiceing my concern

Originally Posted by Marvo

I've been using this thing for 4 days, and I had a lucid dream this night. You can read my dream in my dreamjournal very soon. Link will be here soon.
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Good for you, Marvo! Over the past few days, Brain Bullet has not given me a lucid dream yet, but as I said before, it seems to be helping me a good deal. My dreams also seem to be alittle more vivid. Last night was the first time I've EVER tasted something in my dream. Two nights ago was the first time I've felt touch. One night I was dreaming about swinging around on ropes and I felt happy and was having fun in the dream (I don't know why I would dream of that. I'm not that wild.. ). Even when I woke up, I was still happy. I don't think I've felt that before, or at least in a while. Alot of my dreams are stressful and about want. Wether this is a sign of getting closer to lucid dreaming or not, my dreams seem more enjoyable when I can touch, taste, and have fun!

IMO
be very carefull with subliminal messages they can be harmful at times.
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Harmful? That's not good. Please explain how they can be. I don't want to ruin my mind [more].