Thread: Anyone else "Believe" they've shared/received a thought?

i feel like i have that alll the time, i think something, and immediatly my friend starts talking about it. or it feels like i think it right before they think it and say it. sometimes it feels creepy

Originally Posted by justcrazy

Sometimes I think I'm just naturally/passively good at reading body language, and sometimes my brain produces audibles to translate it at the most random time.

I am not completely discounting that this could be more than just the schizophrenia however due to your condition it is likely what you suggested in this quote. It would be great to have a skill like that though. Please post if it happens again, I'd be curious to hear about it.

Yes and its pink floyd. they put a thought in my mind and i guess helped me trough some things i needed to see.
Its funny cus they put the lyrics in there.. like i choose to listen to it see the words and like it. and then later in LIFE the lyrics start to mean something and then they express what has been said by Pink Floyd.

See my Language and Experience on the internet archive.

The test is not in what you heard or seen, but must comply with the definition of sentience.

Originally Posted by InsaneInThBrain

i feel like i have that alll the time, i think something, and immediatly my friend starts talking about it. or it feels like i think it right before they think it and say it. sometimes it feels creepy

That always happens when I'm talking to my sister or a certain cousin of mine. I always ask them if I was thinking aloud or muttering to myself and they look at me like I've said something utterly ridiculous. xD Imo, it's more coincidence than psychic.

It could be your personality type. For example, I'm an INFJ which are known to have strong psychic-like feelings, and often have a deeper understanding of people. I used to think I was slightly psychic, but when I realized I was an INFJ, and what an INFJ was, it made more rational sense to me. Some people are born with an incredible amount of intuition, and that's probably all it is, especially coupled with your condition.

I don't hear an actual voice, but I do believe in the power of mental suggestion. Maybe you didn't put the words directly into someone else's mouth in a fully spoken sense, but the fact that you have a strong psychic mental field may have overlapped in their field of absorption. I'm not exactly sure how to phrase what I'm trying to say, but this happens to me and my boyfriend all the time. We play "mind games" with each other randomly to test the theory. In fact, we just got back from McDonald's, and I decided to mentally suggest that he buy himself a sandwich that he doesn't usually buy. Typically, he's very predictable and orders the same thing. Once in a while, he'll decide he wants something else. Maybe once every 15 times or so that we go. Tonight, he bought the sandwich. First item he ordered.

I don't know if you've experienced this, but we find that we're sort of waking people up around us, too. This guy who lives down the street (who we never talk to, I just happen to be friends with him on Facebook from high school) started posting on Facebook about a few obscure topics that my boyfriend and I talk about a lot.

Humans aren't that complicated. We auto-pilot the hell out of our day. Remember the speculation that the vast majority of the thoughts/words we think/use each day are exactly the same. Plus, we have a lot of thoughts every single day.. It's bound to happen sometime that two people think the same thing at the same time.

Add to that they often are relatives or friends, i.e. people who are naturally alike anyhow, and who are constantly influencing each other through social interaction, and I'd say the chances of it happening is even more likely.

Add to that the fact that while we think we are terribly unique, humans generally are more identical to each other than we think (or like to think).

Add to that the inherently human logical flaw of confirmation bias, where you remember the times it does happen, but conveniently forget all those thousands upon thousands of times it didn't happen, and you're left with a feeling that there genuinely is something psychic going on inside of person x, when in actuality, the likelier hypothesis could just be a mix of basic probability theory, brain-laziness and memes.

So meh.. I'm not too convinced I'm psychic..


P.S. Case in point:
today I was caught up in the following topics: 1) fractals, 2) evolutionary theory, 3) meme theory. At least two of them (namely fractals and meme theory) are pretty obscure and not-so-daily topics to the general populace. However, just now I turned on the next episode of the Big Bang Theory and shebang! All three topics are there. Am I psychic? Am I somehow communicating with the writers of the show through the distance of time and space and braininess? Or was it a simple coincidence?

Originally Posted by TimB

P.S. Case in point:
today I was caught up in the following topics: 1) fractals, 2) evolutionary theory, 3) meme theory. At least two of them (namely fractals and meme theory) are pretty obscure and not-so-daily topics to the general populace. However, just now I turned on the next episode of the Big Bang Theory and shebang! All three topics are there. Am I psychic? Am I somehow communicating with the writers of the show through the distance of time and space and braininess? Or was it a simple coincidence?

THIS. This happens to me all the time. While I do agree that if you spend enough time with someone your thought patterns will naturally sync up a bit and linger on the same things, I just don't believe it can be a coincidence in all cases, especially cases like yours which are entirely out of your control and you have no physical influence upon.

Tim, you should check out the double-slit experiment. It isn't exactly related, but I think you'd be interested in it, if you haven't seen it already. Well, I guess it is related because the conclusion of the experiment showed that human thought does have an effect on our physical surroundings.
Double-slit experiment - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I sometimes experience this. Something sort of having to do with this is deja vu, I experience it strangely and can predict upcoming emotions and events but only for a short while. Yesterday I had deja vu while I was texting a friend, she was asking me a question for her sister about our speech class assignment...I then got deja vu and I could predict emotions and ideas a few texts later, such as, one of my friends replies was going to make me angry because it was very short and blunt when I sent a fairly long message, I wasn't mad but I knew I would become angry soon...I knew what she was going to say afterwards, etc. This always happens except the feeling lasts only for about a minute...I don't know if this fits in this thread, but does anyone else experience this?

something else is, me and one of my friends have a connection of some sort....same happens with my mom, once I was dialing my moms number randomly and as I was dialing it, she called me....but back to the thing with my friend, we always know what each other are doing and feeling. Like, I can tell when she is about to walk in the room for example. Anyone else experience this too?

Sharing thoughts with someone you have a psychic connection to. You open up your thought energy to each other. The same thoughts go through each others minds. You can feel what others are feeling that are close to you. you may have a strong emotional connection with someone. You share an emotional state with them. You understand how they feel. You exchange energy with them. We are all connected.

I came across a video on fractals on wimp.com. Furthermore, I'm currently enthralled in programming a simple simulator to see whether interesting behaviors of virtual creatures can "evolve" from randomly initialized ones, inspired by the same project a good friend of mine that I recently got into contact with again. As for the memes? I just wrote a post about it. Finally, I saw on my facebook that a new episode of the BBT was out and because I quite like that show, I decided to watch the episode. And thus it all came together.. I'm unsure as to how any of that is somehow out of my control.. Looks like a simple case of coincidentitis to me
Considering all those times I did the same kinds of things and nothing like this "psychic phenomenon" ever happened, why would this time be any different apart from something otherwise unrelated to my life actually overlapping with my life for a change?

As for the ideas synching up-part: of course they do. Spend enough time with a person and you will start to think alike. We all have first-hand experiences with this. I certainly do. In my group of friends, we tend to take over each others' moods (if one person gets quiet-ish and withdrawn and depressed, we naturally follow; if one person gets energetic and happy and stuff, we naturally follow.. Quite understandable.. Considering that we're inherently social animals. Plus, mirror neurons!). Hell, we tend to take over each others' behaviors, even (I find myself taking over little mannerisms and figures of speach.. it's quite interesting, to be honest; again, remember the memes-talk). So I'm not that surprised that people tend to think alike when they spend a great deal of time with each other. Furthermore, we naturally spend time with people that are like ourselves anyhow.

As for the double slit experiment? I'm no quantum mechanics-ist, so I'm not sure about this, but I never got the idea that it showed that human thought had any connection with the physical environment. As far as I'm able to understand, the idea from the experiment was that on the quantum scale, very, very, very small "things" such as electrons, photons and buckyballs were able to behave both as waves and particles depending on whether they were being 'observed' (as in: whether they had interaction with another piece of matter). Apparently quantum effects disappear when they exit the 'quantum' scale, when they interact with other matter, entering the 'micro/macro' scale, so to say, where they become a part of a greater system (as can also be seen in quantum entanglement experiments, etc., where the effects disappear when they interact with something else). (Also see: YouTube - Double Slit Experiment - The Strangeness Of Quantum Mechanics). So, in a way, anything that interacts with quantum-stuff (and sure, that includes us humans), causes the wave function to collapse.
YouTube - Wave Function - Sixty Symbols <-- these folks are awsome, by the way
YouTube - Wave Function (Extra Footage) <-- seriously, you should subscribe to these

Then again.. Quantum mechanics is quite fuzzy.. Notice how the dude in the last video just went 'oh fuck it' in attempting to concisely explain this stuff. I get the idea this is far more complicated than we might think of it at first glance. To be sure, though, I'm gonna look up a real physicist to clear this up. I know too little about this to have any significant voice on the matter.

I'll be back .


FWIW,

TimB

Yeah, I realized after I posted the link that it didn't really get into the findings much, hah. Basically, a group of scientists were studying the behavior of photons. They shot photons in a box through a flat surface with two slits to see what would happen on the other side. The first trial that they attempted was really shocking for them because they expected the photons to act like solid objects and simply go through the two slits and end up as solid lines on the other side mimicking the slits. Instead, they produced a diffusion pattern, like water ripples. On the other side of the slitted surface, the photons produced a single line in the center of the two slits and then the ripple effect, which faded as the photons grew further from the center. This indicated that they produced every possible outcome. Baffled by this, the scientists put a photon capturing device (like a camera for photons) into this box to more closely observe the photon behavior and see why they made the diffusion pattern. When observed in the second attempt, the photons behaved like the scientists expected them to in the first place and made two neat lines where the slits were. This proves that cognitive thought and active observation has an effect on our surroundings.
The theory gets a bit more complex after that and goes into some really abstract ideas, similar to the old saying, "if a tree falls in a forest and no one is around to hear it, does it make a sound?"

For me it is kind of like when someone uses too much water in a watercolor painting and the colors of the objects bleed into one another. There might be some kind of magnetic space above my eyes that pull them up there while I fall upwards into the place where we all think aloud. It is more honest than verbal communication, because, just like body language, it cannot lie. It is very congruent with body language, hence the ambiguity of if you are reading the body language or the thoughts. But it is actually the same, or at least they say the same thing. If you can see auras you can also see it in the aura.

One time I was hiking in the woods with a friend of mine at night and we were both very high on acid. He was literally thinking out loud at me for the whole walk. He was blabbering his train of thought unconsciously and it just came out his mouth with no filter. When we got to the top of the mountain, I wanted some silence, but he was just a talking monkey mind. So I sat in meditation and merged with his mind and slowly meditated it for him into silence. He had an epiphany. But I was curious, so I started practicing those mind games with him. My eyes were closed and I imagined a red balloon. He immediately said "Red Balloon!" for no reason that he knew of. I kept putting thoughts into his mind by visualizing and he named each one and he didn't even know I was doing it.

i feel this lots of times, like when my bro and i are watchin something on tv, we both notice something at the same time even tho we watched the vid a 372569485931529365293615293152 times and we never saw it b4.

This has happened to me plenty of times!

Many times, when I am socializing with a friend or a member of my family, a particular thought will creep into my mind, and about two seconds later, I will hear that exact same thought coming out of the mouth of the friend I'm socializing with. ...

It is as if, in the time between when they conceive the thought, and when it leaves their mouth, I sometimes pick up on it. ... or it can be the other way around, where I am in-fact delivering the thought to my friend, so they end up conceiving the same conversational matter as I.

Those moments are quite epic, and honestly,... when I have those types of moments with someone, I think of them better for it. ... The act of sharing the same mind for just a brief second, especially when on accident, strikes me that this individual is resonant to my state or set of mind.