The Placebo Effect....

[Lucidity444]

So I have been thinking about the placebo effect. There is no doubt that it exists, and I'm sure many of you have experienced it in some way shape or form, medicinal or not. This got me to thinking would the greatest placebo of all not be everyone in the world thinking something like advil, just as an example off the top of my head, curing a headache and this being said to have done so for years by doctors and everyone else in the world? I mean, sure there are things in advil and other pain killers that cause reactions in the body, but could these things not happen just because we expect them to? This even seems to me to go along with the law of attraction, you want your headache to dissapear so you take a pill and it does. I mean people have used it for years and it worked so why wouldn't it cause those reactions? Again advil is just an example, this could be the case with anything, even drugs. THC is the active ingredient in weed that makes you "high" and everything with THC does the same because there's THC and that is supposed to make you high. I'm not saying your body doesn't go through the process that makes you feel high but does the THC really cause it? It could just as easily be the act of smoking and expectation and anticipation of the high that could cause it. Anyways, just a thought. I'm not sure if this is the right board to post this on but I thought it was the best fit so I apologize if you feel differently.

[deepsleep]

I get what your saying and I've thought similar. I think this is the right place for the thread too btw.

[[user-name]]

I think your stretching placebo way too far.

[Jesus of Suburbia]

What is placebo??

[Luanne]

You mean, yellow is yellow cause we say it's yellow... Pills and everything else work in some way, we take it our way. You must experience the real effect of weed, in order to experience a placebo later. But, yeah, our whole life is one big autosuggestion!

[Baron Samedi]

I smoked weed in a dream, and I felt high. Placebo in full effect. Now... if I could just do that in waking life!

[BeenThere]

I once watched my roommates scrape the kitchen table for "shake" after they finished a whole ounce of green in just a couple nights. Of course the bulk of what they got off the table was anything but pot (some I'm sure was unmentionable stuff), yet they seemed to enjoy the effects...now that's what I call a placebo.

[Kuhnada29]

Things like the placebo effect explain how stuff like chaos magic and law of attraction is possible. There are some open-minded scientists that study the phenomenon behind it, but it's not mainstream....basically the theories about the holographic/fractal universe are right. But it's something about photons, and the release of energy creates a wave form. It requires non-linear thinking to know how it works. Basically, your subconscious beliefs shape your reality, just like dreams. It takes so long for LOA to work is because the conscious mind literally forces your intention down...it battles it. Like a negative thinking vs positive thinking, and the negative thinking is the conscious mind.

[deepsleep]

You sell a guy childrens advil and tell him it's strong as hell. He comes to you and says it gave him the best high ever.

[Noogah]

I must disagree. The person who first tested Adcil/Tylenol/Aspirin; suppose they tested it, like, thirty different times before they got it right? I've skeptically tried things that worked for me. How exactly did placebo help if I was skeptic?

[Jesus of Suburbia]

What about the first person to smoke marijuana?? He probably didn't know it would get him high, but it did anyway.

[Lucidity444]

What about the first person to smoke marijuana?? He probably didn't know it would get him high, but it did anyway. excellent point but how do you know he did?

[BeenThere]

What about the first person to smoke marijuana?? He probably didn't know it would get him high, but it did anyway. How about contact highs? Wouldn't that be the ultimate case of a placebo? I have seen others get big contact highs, and I have had them myself. For gentle psychoactives like pot, I think it takes time to understand how to get high on them. In my own case I didn't get high at first, but gradually learned. After I started using strong hallucinogens, then everytime I smoked pot, even a little, I would get a nice buzz. I called it, "tripping without the mess."