Let's start with an introduction.

[Virosa]

Hello there. My name is Pascal. I'm a gamer, a dreamer, a self-proclaimed psychologist charlatan(but not really) and i wanna be professorial programmer. Look like i went on and on with this post, so if long monologue is boring to you, skip to the end! --- I just woke at 4 something, almost a hour ago. I spent the last 30 or so minutes reading some stuff on this forum. I stumbled here by accident, i was searching on the net information about sleep, fell on a article about Lucid dream, then realized the term was new for me but the experience -not. So i typed Lucid Dream Forum and here i am. I'm 23, i've been having more or less lucid dream regularly since i was about 10 or so years old. It started with me having an element that keep "popping" into my dreams; i would end up not having any clothes exempt for boxers. I'm lucky my subconscious had at least the decency of providing such basic censoring! It lasted for i cannot remember how long, but it did happen for very long, maybe two years, since i was 8 year old when i moved, changed school and things gotten unpleasant there. Anyways, at one point, during sleep, the situation was just making me angry and angrier(as it happened on and on). At one point, when i would get very angry as the situation happened over and over, it would simply wake me up. At first it was good, i had a "way out". Eventualy i realised that it wasnt the part where i got angry that woke me up(althought it did help and some part of that anger was actualy real and present when i woke up), it was because i chose to wake up! Then as it kept happening, i would try to take control instead of getting angry and wakeing. At first it did not work but eventualy i just "went lucid" yelled that i had enough and that it wouldnt happen again, and it dint. Now i am 23. I am from Quebec in Canada. My first language is french. My point of interests in life are psychology and informatic. I've seen that alot of peoples on this forum end up in inconfortable situation while dreaming or lucid dreaming, thus: Before i go and talk about my "problem" i'd like to share something, a tip; If you are reading this and is either scared of lucid dreams or simply have nightmares or often end-up in unpleasant sitations while dreaming, lucid or not, the following is for you: When you dream, a part that is your subconscious when you are awake take over. That part govern so many things in your everyday life; how you feel about something, emotions, phobias etc... Learning to communicate with it is a great asset in life... but i'll remain on the topic of dreams since otherwise this would end up being a essay or something ... If you are afraid that something will happen while you dream, odds are it will happen. By thinking of something you are afraid of, you fuel your subconsciousness what it need to place you in your own personal horror movie! So even if many here know about it, here the actual tip... Self-Hypnosis (you can google it if you dont know about it!); when you are in a very calm state, this can be either while you meditate, (deeply) if you can do it or just after you wake up "normaly" a.k.a. not suddently; You are in a state where your subconscious is "semi-conscious". You are "vulnerable" to suggestions and this is when you want to "program" your subsconcious to "change" what it does at a precise point. An example would be: Next time i become lucid in a dream and/or and i fear i might end up in face of XYZ unconfortable situation(you must vizualise doing so, so your subconsciousness know what the heck you're talking about!) instead of "insert description of bad situation here" i will "insert something here that put you in a situation where you are SAFE". It could be that you rise in the air SAFE and away from harm (or whatever) and can look down below and decide where to go next. When you "program" yourself. Its pretty much like computer programming! You need a trigger, an event, something that happen. And then you need a command, what you do about it instead of letting whatever is happening, happen. --- Anyways. My situation is i've been "turning lucid" for a long long time, but when i do, i wake up after a few seconds. I've tried all the things i wanted and then all i could think of during lucid (anything you can do in a matter of seconds anyways!) To stay lucid. I tried alot of things, like relaxing or doing nothing, doing something mundane, going to take a swim, having a conversation with someone, taking the buss, driving a car, RACING a car, playing whatever, flying(this one took me a few try!), diving into space or into deep water, fighting, flirting, kissing and more, back and forth, on and on till i gave up trying to stay lucid. I thought it was simply not possible. But now i found this forum of people sharing about it! When i try to relax, i kind of just let go of my lucidity, when i try to just continue dreaming my dream with a bit of control, i either wake up after a bit longer or go back to non-lucid (tho i always clearly remember that dream from start to end), when i try to not wake up or hold unto lucidity, i wake up pretty fast too. My best result was semi-lucidity i guess. I would just "play" my dream and more or less program myself to become lucid if i wanted to alter something, then go back to regular dreaming, back and forth, without waking up immediately. But like i said i had given up, now when i become lucid i just do whatever, wake up, think what i want/desire and go back to regular dreaming. I guess here you call it passive control? So there, i've layed out some (only a little!) of myself here. Discuss? I dont mind chitchatting in a more direct fashion about anything. Or if you just need someone to talk too, maybe i can do that too.

[Brunor2]

Hello Pascal. Welcome to Dreamviews. You said: But like i said i had given up, now when i become lucid i just do whatever, wake up, think what i want/desire and go back to regular dreaming. I guess here you call it passive control? I didn't get it. You say that you turn lucid, then you wake up, think about something to do in your dreams and end doing it in a non-lucid dream ? If yes, then it's some sort of ''Dream incubation". Passive control is when you use the dream itself to give you what you want, like: Asking a DC for something, expecting someone or something to be in the other side of the door or inside a drawer, etc. Don't give up, you can become lucid easly, it's a gift you have. You only need to work in dream control and dream stabilization (this last one is a important thing), and you'll be able to stay lucid for much longer. Check out the task of the year and task of the month, maybe you get some interest in doing them. Looks like you always lucid dream with DILD, so check this technique, so you'll understand it better and maybe make your lucids longer. That's it, if you need help with something more specific, just send me a PM.

[Moodyangel]

Welcome Pascal! Thanks for all the information. It definitely helps with questions that people may have. Looking forward to reading more of you posts in the future. Hope you enjoy your stay.

[Serenity]

Bienvenue, Virosa I'm also Canadian, but I'm out west ( is for the being out west bit). As of right now, the vast majority of my lucid dreams are mainly just plot-affecting. I still retain the lucidity throughout the dream, but I seem to not have a lot of focus to do more than just affect the plot that I'm in.

[Virosa]

Argg i wrote a nice reply and then it went and told me "your account has to be at least 7 days old before you can post links" or something. ;_; Fine! I din't like it ANYWAYS!. (It truly was kinda way too long-ish... since i went about how i did "my stuff" related to lucidity) So in resume, it went like that : at all: Thanks for the warm welcome. at brunor2: thanks tons for the tips ! I'll get right on it! at Serenity: Awh you may be far but you're still a Canadian sister in heart!... or something ... xD The way you become lucid but arnt in control of the dream seem strange but interesting(to me). Maybe we'll talk about it some time All of you (and the others who read my "entry post" but did not reply): Have sweet "dreams" P.S.: Stupid thing wouldnt let me post and deleted my reply's till i figured it wouldnt let me use "commercials A's. A-grr!

[Serenity]

It's very weird, let me tell you. I know it's a dream. I can actually control everything in the dream down to minute details. Plot change, abilities for myself... even remember things from waking life. But... I can't seem to break away from the plot of the dream and work on goals. I just don't even think about those possibilities. Very odd!