Vanilla Sky.

[dreamboat]

I watched it last night and thought what a prospect. What if this was the future for the the human race. Maybe this is the start.

[nina]

Ahhh I love that movie

[ElijahJones]

I wonder how that would play out. If everyone was given a choice to live a real life to be forever lucid dreaming. I wonder how society would change. EJ

[SleepSpirit]

I thought about that as well.. Sometimes i think i'd choose a life of lucid dreams, Sometimes i don't, Guess it just depends how things are going,

[Vladimirn]

now I have heard so much about this movie that I am going to rent it or get it in some other way

[Alex D]

I just didn't like how he wasn't very lucid through his lucid dream.

[nina]

Originally posted by Alex D I just didn't like how he wasn't very lucid through his lucid dream. But that's the whole point. He didn't really KNOW that it was a lucid dream...

[ElijahJones]

Yeah, I think if it were a contract thing I would have wanted my money back. In Vanilla Sky II he starts his new life in 2154 and then sues that company for like 80 gazillion dollars. 8) More thoughts on the movie: Cameron Diaz' character though was definitely a trip. Obviously there is a strong life lesson thing about not treating people like they are expendable in there somewhere two. Oh yeah and was'nt Cruz' name Joel (or was that his friend), that was the name of his character in Risky Business (1986?), the first big movie he was in.

[nina]

In Vanilla Sky he is David Aames. Joel Goodsen in Risky Business. (haha..goodsen...good son???)

[Alex D]

Originally posted by lucidnina+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(lucidnina)</div> <!--QuoteBegin-Alex D I just didn't like how he wasn't very lucid through his lucid dream. But that's the whole point. He didn't really KNOW that it was a lucid dream...[/b] Then it's not a lucid dream, it's just a normal dream. Thats all that I didn't like about it, because all my friends who know I'm into lucid dreaming, after seeing this film really can't grasp lucid dreaming anymore, most of them just think they're normal dreams that turn into nightmares.

[dreamtamer007]

When you’re frozen your really dead. And the consciousness that goes on is like a lucid dream. Only, the people of the future were so advanced that they could monitor what was going on at the other side so to speak. If you saw the movie Flat Line you will see that they also were experiencing something other then in the body as there bodies did not function.

[SleepSpirit]

Main Entry: lucid dream Part of Speech: noun Definition: a dream state in which one is conscious enough to recognize that one is in the dream state and which stays in one's memory. Was tom cruises' character in an actual "Lucid Dream" I don't think so, not until the end, where he was actually told by that dude "your body is frozen" then it became a lucid dream, before that, it was just a dream/nightmare in which he saw things very clearly, one might even say 'lucidly'

[nina]

I think that he MUST have been "lucid" on SOME sort of subconscious level. As the movie says, it was shaped out of his memories, his thoughts and dreams...his ideal life. And then maybe when it began to move from his subconcious more into his conscious mind was when things went wrong and it became a nightmare and he was not fully consciously lucid until the end of the movie when he realized that it was all a dream. But I think on some level he must have known all along?

[Kaniaz]

Originally posted by lucidnina But I think on some level he must have known all along? Yeah, defintely. He just recognised it concsciously after the evidence was in his face.

[Oneironaut Zero]

But, by definition, he wouldn't be classified as 'lucid' until the very moment he realized what was going on wasn't real. It wouldn't matter of the begining of his situation was a dream or a nightmare, intensely vivid, or unclear. You couldn't say he was lucid until he was clear that what he was experiencing was in his mind only.