Thread: Becoming aggitated HELP

Well lucid dreaming really takes patience. If you aren't a patient person lucid dreaming isn't for you.

As for not being able to fall asleep. How long do you sleep useually? Do you get much exercise?

Definitely sounds like you are simply trying too hard. Stop trying at all, let your sleep/dreams normalize for a week or so, and then try it again. I think you'll do well as you clearly have some amazing willpower. I think you will probably have a lucid dream during the "not trying" phase.

thank you both.. I have patience zebrah.. yes I exercise 3 times a week at least.. umm I sleep about 6 hours. usually I don't sleep too long.. ok guys but should I think about LD during my waking hours? or should I just focus on my DJ? and what about the techniques? how many should I try at once? even now I think I'm thinking too hard lol

Originally Posted by Terrin

thank you both.. I have patience zebrah.. yes I exercise 3 times a week at least.. umm I sleep about 6 hours. usually I don't sleep too long.. ok guys but should I think about LD during my waking hours? or should I just focus on my DJ? and what about the techniques? how many should I try at once? even now I think I'm thinking too hard lol

Stop EVERYTHING. At least, everything you can, consciously.

Unconsciously I think you'll still be working on it. I don't think you can really stop that. You're intense!

lmaooooooooooooo thanks skylight gosh.. it must be true.. you can pick up on that through messages.. ok i will stop and see how this goes.. have you had any LDs before?

Originally Posted by Terrin

lmaooooooooooooo thanks skylight gosh.. it must be true.. you can pick up on that through messages.. ok i will stop and see how this goes.. have you had any LDs before?

yes, and they tend to happen when I'm not trying too hard. Way back in 1991 or so, when Stephen LaBerge came out with the first electronic lucid dream device (cost $1200 and had wires going from the mask to the black box, lol) I used it every night for ten or so days, barely got any sleep, didn't have any lucid dreams. In frustration I slept without it on the eleventh night and that night had my first lucid dream.

niceeeeeeeeeeeeeeee ok ok.. i'm going to keep up my training for one more week.. then i will stop everything but i want to make sure its firm in my mind! lol i'm gonna be pissed if i stop and nothing happens.. thanks so much!

I have always had really good luck going to sleep with background music (no lyrics) something soothing, it allows for the mental visualization to flow better ~ instead of ripping through your brain with demands and commands, that never works for me. When I start commanding my brain I will be up all night, trying to talk it into something For instance; nature sounds, harp or soft piano music ~ maybe place a picture of whatever you are wanting answers to next to your bed to use as a visual aid while you drift off. Just a thought, everyone is individual & and these things may not work for you; just thought I would share.

thank you! all suggestions are welcome! i will try it tonight.. but whats this about a visual aid? thats new to me..

2 days ago I made a thread, I was over motivated and couldn't sleep either, I think you are over motivated, i'm also about 3 weeks in and I can't for the life of me pick what I dream about and I sleep really bad. So you are not the only one, just do some minimal excercises and try to let it all go for a while.

P.S. as a kid I also had alot of lucid dreams and I thought it would be easy for me to, but i'm setting some minor goals for myself and taking it easy, make it fun.

Visual aids are just that, something for you to focus on as you drift off. You know like a seascape, somewhere that you have been to. Relax and remember it with every sense; what did it smell like? what did you see at that moment? was is warm, hot, cold? relive that snip of time. It's easier when you are trying to visualize something that you have already seen, opposed to trying to create it in your mind. = )

Originally Posted by ePhoeniX

2 days ago I made a thread, I was over motivated and couldn't sleep either, I think you are over motivated, i'm also about 3 weeks in and I can't for the life of me pick what I dream about and I sleep really bad. So you are not the only one, just do some minimal excercises and try to let it all go for a while.

P.S. as a kid I also had alot of lucid dreams and I thought it would be easy for me to, but i'm setting some minor goals for myself and taking it easy, make it fun.

I'm trying man.. have you had a LD yet? besides when you were a kid obviously lol I stopped everything but now it seems like I can barely remember my dreams at all.. Its only been a couple days since I stopped doing RC's.. I still check occasionally.. The thing about my dreams is they seem so strong! lol I would never know I'm dreaming because of the strength that they have.. by strength I mean its as if I were hypnotized and the only way I could wake out of the trance is if someone snapped their fingers.. I'm hoping to beat this.. The only thing I have left is perseverance.. when I'm locked onto something, I rarely give up trying. So I hope that counts for something. Thank you for the advice man

Originally Posted by Mcavalier

Visual aids are just that, something for you to focus on as you drift off. You know like a seascape, somewhere that you have been to. Relax and remember it with every sense; what did it smell like? what did you see at that moment? was is warm, hot, cold? relive that snip of time. It's easier when you are trying to visualize something that you have already seen, opposed to trying to create it in your mind. = )

I'll try that.. even though i think that will just keep me up at night lol i think i focus too hard to the whole visual aid thing..