Thread: Dream Characters and Infinite knowledge

I don't know any facts on this, so I'm going to give my opinion:

A dream can only tell us whaty we allready know.

However, being told something you allready know from a different perspective, or in a different manner, can be as effective as learning it from the beginning.

Therefore, although dreams can only tell us what we allready know, they can show us things in a light we didn't previously know of, and thus let us know what we truly think of it, or bring it to our attention from the depths of our subconscious.

Originally posted by sean83
I heard that the subconscious mind has infinite knowledge and that people create dream characters or guides in their dreams to ask questions and solve problems. If for example I was to have a lucid dream and create Einstein in my dreams and ask him to explain his theory of relativity, would I be getting a proper explanation or would it be a load of nonsense?

Thanks Anyone

Actually, if you are just talking about the Theory of the Subconscious, then that would be limited to things that you only have perceived in your lifetime, minus memory decay and inattention.

But then there is the Collective Unconscious, theorized first and most famously by Carl Jung, and there you have what comes closer to your description.

Many scientists take Latency's Argument, that we could not possibly know anything beyond our own perceptions because they can not discern the instrumentality for such Knowledge, NOT because they have shown that nobody ever knew anything that was shown to be outside their availability to have learned if it. They simply avoid the issue by saying it is impossible. But to them anything in the Psychic Realm would be impossible. They are akin to the same people who locked Galileo up for saying the Earth was round.

So, yes, more than a few People think that All Knowledge is suspended in the Ether. I wonder that Jung calls it the Collective UNconscious. I would prefer to call it the Collective Consciousness. I don't know what is UNconscious about it. The Active Agent for this Collective Consciousness I call the Higher Mind. This Higher Mind is responsible for any transcendent dream content that may come to us. To get to the Collective Consciousness, one must go through the Higher Mind.

Yes, with the right suggestions to the Higher Mind I don't see any limit upon what forms of coherent knowledge you could ask of It. But one must keep in mind that the Higher Mind has an intellegence of its own, and it probably doesn't take well to being dictated to if the constraints brought upon it are too severe. For instance, you may suggest that the Higher Mind present to you Einstein's Theory of Relativity. Fine. But what if the Higher Mind does not agree with the Theory of Relativity? Then what may transpire is that you have a dream, or a series of dreams which discuss alternatives to the theory of Relativity.

That is why they call them 'suggestions' and not 'orders'. The Higher Mind is convinced that it knows better than any individual what is right and wrong, and what should come next, and what sequences should be followed. So in making Suggestions to the Higher Mind, one needs to allow for the Wisdom of the Higher Mind to plan things accordingly.

I remember in the old dream books of instances given where Scientists and Mathematicians were given solutions to their puzzling problems in Dreams. I can't remember to quote any of those instances though.

As for the Objectivity of Dreams -- I once shared a dream with a friend -- we met in a dream and had a discussion. We were at a particular place, and we each came from different directions and left departing to different directions. When we met the next day, for real, we were able to quickly compare notes and determine that we each could describe the same dream in minute detail. Dreams are objective. As soon as we know that two minds can share the same dream, then the limit Science puts to the Subconscious, as limited to the mind of each person in isolation, that limitation breaks free. As soon as we know two people can share a dream, then we know it is theoretically possible for Knowledge to be shared in Dreaming.

One Sufi Sect in the 11th Century used to use Dreamers stationed throughout the Islamic Empire (the Caliphat) to pass on diplomatic messages -- it was faster than the mail. First the messages would go out via the Dreamers, and they would be followed up by the Post, to make certain none of the details were missed. Seemed to work fine for them.

Now, I myself have been trying to used the Higher Mind more for Spiritual Ends. But it would be a useful Research Endeavor to attempt to access some objective knowledge that you feel certain would be in the Collective Consciousness, but which, at this point, remains unknown to yourself. It would just be useful to see what the Higher Mind would do with those suggestions.