HIT Feedback

**SgtCracker** · 07-18-2005 08:12 AM

Did anyone try the Hypnogogic Imagery Technique? I want to get some feedback from people who have tried it. Anyone, with either a failed or successful try, please post your findings. Also, tell us or me the difficulty of HIT.

**jay dawg** · 07-18-2005 09:44 AM

im still trying to figure out the difference between hit and wild. ill let u know if it works

**irishcream** · 07-18-2005 10:11 AM

What's this technique?
Looks like i missed it...

someone fill me in!
although i need to get my recall back on track, which means going to bed at a decent hour...

**jay dawg** · 07-18-2005 10:52 AM

Originally posted by irishcream
What's this technique?
Looks like i missed it...
someone fill me in!
although i need to get my recall back on track, which means going to bed at a decent hour...

ahhh screw that! decent hour hahaha,

HIT is at the very bottom of the tutorials page

**Howie** · 07-18-2005 12:26 PM

Yes. I was talking to one of my adoptions about using HI to enter into a dream. To my suprise there was no tutorial. So I made one.
It is essentially WILD but you use hypnagogic images to lead you into your dream state rather than auto suggestion and the like.

This has been the only way that WILD has worked for me!

Any questions about it PM me if you like.

**SgtCracker** · 07-19-2005 07:25 AM

Ok, I tried it last night, and well it was a failure. I got really far though. I did everything until the images started to become animated. The tutorial said not to focus to much attention, but enough so that you don't go to sleep "un"lucid. The first three times, I was paying just enough attention, but I got a bit carried away almost went into sleep and I was like "No I cant I'm Dreaming", but when I did that, I woke up. So that happened like 2 more times, and I kept paying too much attention and woke up again. Then the 4th time I was like I cant pay that much attention or else I'll wake up again, however, I don't know what happened after that, which probably means that I was paying too little attention and fell asleep. Well, I was really close and I'm gonna try again tonight. If anyone else got close, or past that stage, please post your findings.

**poetlife21** · 07-20-2005 09:05 PM

I just tried this yesterday, my God, it kicks ass! But the thing is when i woke up, my body (arms and feet) were drained, why does this happen? is this suppose to happen? did i do it right? just wondering because it was pretty weird yet cool at the same time.

**YULAW** · 07-20-2005 09:37 PM

Howetzer I like that Avatar. For some reason everytime I look at it
I find myself thinking outside of the box...

go figure huh?

**jay dawg** · 07-20-2005 09:43 PM

Originally posted by ShadowNightWing
Howetzer I like that Avatar. For some reason everytime I look at it
I find myself thinking outside of the box... go figure huh?

you think that helps?

wait till you free your mind with large amounts of constant drug use! hahaha. there is no spoon, there is no box

**nina** · 07-20-2005 10:07 PM

[quote]Howetzer

I don't

I miss your old "I'll be waiting" avatar Howie.

Then again...you didn't like it when I changed my avatar either.

**YULAW** · 07-22-2005 06:27 AM

Well I never told you this Nina

But Im not too Thrilled about your Avatar. I mean it doesn't fit you. You should get a new one that just shows a pair of long legs with some RED fishnet thigh-high stockings. Now thats the kind of avatar you should have..tehehe...

**SgtCracker** · 07-22-2005 08:37 AM

Originally posted by poetlife21
I just tried this yesterday, my God, it kicks ass! But the thing is when i woke up, my body (arms and feet) were drained, why does this happen? is this suppose to happen? did i do it right? just wondering because it was pretty weird yet cool at the same time.

wow this went off topic fast, neway what did you do, then we can determine if you did it rite, and also it might be normal, since you're going into the dream state conscious, and i have a question for you, how did you get past the part where you have to pay attention to the animated pics, but not too much and not too little, any tips there?

**nina** · 07-28-2005 03:41 AM

Originally posted by ShadowNightWing
Well I never told you this Nina

But Im not too Thrilled about your Avatar. I mean it doesn't fit you. You should get a new one that just shows a pair of long legs with some RED fishnet thigh-high stockings. Now thats the kind of avatar you should have..tehehe...

Wow...yeah that would fit me well. Since I'm a street walker? You have odd taste. A trenchcoat with nothing underneath and boots.

And you already know I can't stand your avatar. Anyways...I love mine. It suits me just fine if you know anything about me that is.

**nesgirl119** · 07-28-2005 03:45 AM

Originally posted by ShadowNightWing
Well I never told you this Nina

But Im not too Thrilled about your Avatar. I mean it doesn't fit you. You should get a new one that just shows a pair of long legs with some RED fishnet thigh-high stockings. Now thats the kind of avatar you should have..tehehe...

Hey! I like Nina's avatar! & if that is the one she relates to herself most, she should keep it, so keep that comment to yourself!

**jay dawg** · 07-28-2005 04:56 AM

Originally posted by nesgirl119

Hey! I like Nina's avatar! & if that is the one she relates to herself most, she should keep it, so keep that comment to yourself!

speaking of avatars....GAH!!!! what the hell is that. an ogre?

**YULAW** · 07-28-2005 06:43 AM

Originally posted by nesgirl119

Hey! I like Nina's avatar! & if that is the one she relates to herself most, she should keep it, so keep that comment to yourself!

WHAT! Shut up idiot grow the fuck up first before you tell who should keep a comment to themselves That was a Fucking joke and Nina knows it You stepped into something that had nothing to do with your dumb ass! Don't fucking do that shit again! Or else Im gonna get pissed and it's not going to be Nice! Fucking Bitch!

**jay dawg** · 07-28-2005 07:24 AM

Originally posted by ShadowNightWing

WHAT! Shut up idiot grow the fuck up first before you tell who should keep a comment to themselves That was a Fucking joke and Nina knows it You stepped into something that had nothing to do with your dumb ass! Don't fucking do that shit again! Or else Im gonna get pissed and it's not going to be Nice! Fucking Bitch!

**Tsukin** · 07-28-2005 07:58 AM

Originally posted by ShadowNightWing

WHAT! Shut up idiot grow the fuck up first before you tell who should keep a comment to themselves That was a Fucking joke and Nina knows it You stepped into something that had nothing to do with your dumb ass! Don't fucking do that shit again! Or else Im gonna get pissed and it's not going to be Nice! Fucking Bitch!

Whoa whoa whoa watch the language man! No need to talk to nesgirl that way, can't you be a little nicer? If it really was a joke, then for one thing you don't need to yell at the next person who makes a comment about it, and you certainly don't have to call them a bitch either. If you were in a bad mood or something keep your anger to yourself.

**Longest** · 07-28-2005 08:07 AM

Okay i can get images and ideas in my head, after relaxing for awhile but no animation. The images go through my head like a slideshow gradually getting faster and faster, what do i have to do to make them animated?

**nesgirl119** · 07-28-2005 07:11 PM

Originally posted by Tsukin

Whoa whoa whoa watch the language man! No need to talk to nesgirl that way, can't you be a little nicer? If it really was a joke, then for one thing you don't need to yell at the next person who makes a comment about it, and you certainly don't have to call them a bitch either. If you were in a bad mood or something keep your anger to yourself.

Thanx for standing up for me. IOU

**Howie** · 07-29-2005 11:57 AM

Alrighty then!

Originally posted by Longest
Okay i can get images and ideas in my head, after relaxing for awhile but no animation. The images go through my head like a slideshow gradually getting faster and faster, what do i have to do to make them animated?

Thanks Longest, for getting us back on the topic.

It sounds to me like you are very very close.
What is your status at the point where you have the many fleating images?
Do you drift off into sleep or do you wake up?

**Longest** · 07-29-2005 03:36 PM

[quote]Alrighty then!

Thanks Longest, for getting us back on the topic.

It sounds to me like you are very very close.
What is your status at the point where you have the many fleating images?
Do you drift off into sleep or do you wake up?

Yea lol i just chose to ignore the fighting. As i lay there images or ideas will pop into my head, the more tired I get the faster the images or ideas flow. They will come and go they are there for a second and they are gone. Yeah my problem is that I fall asleep and I dont know how to enter the dream from those images. But last night I think i got some animations but only for a little bit then they would be gone. I got a vision in my head of characters from a movie i saw last night being interviewed I tried to will myself into that scene but i diddnt know how... THEN my cell phone rang omg this random girl called me with the wrong number for the second time that night i was like wtf...noooo u dont understand..... and she was like oh.... ehurrh god i was so mad. What did i do wrong anyways?

**Tornado Joe** · 07-29-2005 04:49 PM

Hey Longest -

Well, for one, you left your cell on!! Can't try WILDing with interruptions - Heh, Heh

You said you tried to will yourself into one of the animations. Well, I think that anytime you make an "effort" of any sort, you're using what I call "alertness energy".

The game:
Try to imagine you're like a game character with an energy bar that goes up and down depending on how "alert" you are. When you're trying to sleep, the object of the game is to get the bar down really low, without it getting to zero. Like somewhere between 2% and 10% (zero meaning you fall asleep - aka, game over!).This "sweet spot" is your only window of opportunity to slip past the zero point without being unconscious - therefore lucid.

The challenge is this:
Try to fend off "jumping into" any imagery untill you reach this 2-10% "sweet spot". Any type of effort on your part will instantly create a "spike" in your alert bar, making you more alert. If you can manage to get to the sweet spot, however, even a short spike will keep you below that certain percentage needed to slip into a WILD (let's just say that point is something like 15-25%). What makes this difficult that the closer you get to zero, the harder it is to remember what you're trying to do.

It's tough, but it's something that I think is luck as well as skill.

**Longest** · 07-29-2005 05:29 PM

Thnx for the help tornado, me and my friend tried it again but god damn carpet cleaners woke us up.

**nesgirl119** · 07-29-2005 07:42 PM

[quote]Alrighty then!

Thanks Longest, for getting us back on the topic.

It sounds to me like you are very very close.
What is your status at the point where you have the many fleating images?
Do you drift off into sleep or do you wake up?

I didn't mean to drift off topic...sorry Howetzer..

As for answering the question, I usually just relax a bit when I look at them, at least until my body falls asleep. Then my mind will, too!