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      Noticing an LD pattern develop

      This is all still very preliminary, but after managing to get my LD's to come about once a week I believe I'm beginning to notice a cycle:

      1) Dedicated Dream Journaling, Reality Checking; generally focusing entirely on LD throughout the day.

      2) After several days, my non-lucid dreams begin to contain LD elements (shouting "Clarity Now!", practicing techniques, etc.)

      3) Hit a wall of frustration, and quit.

      4) Lucid Dreaming on the following night (or a night later).


      My current difficulty is that the last two LD's following this pattern ended immediately after realizing I was Lucid, resulting in full awakening.

      Thanks to Dream Journaling, I discovered that these last two LD's occured during afternoon naps, both of almost exactly 90 mins. duration.

      Could it be that my being otherwise well-rested is affecting the quality of control or duration of these recent "nap" LD's? From what I've read, 90 mins. is about the time it takes to enter REM, and I think the naps are sort of "shallower" sleep that is easier to be startled out of (...and perhaps should be discontinued?). Any thoughts on this would be greatly appreciated.

      - Legend

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      Re: Noticing an LD pattern develop

      Hello,

      You ask some very good questions. Most people assume that we REM approximately 90 minutes into the sleep cycle. This is true. However, through stimulus, you can consciously and easily move from Beta to Theta in a manner of minutes. This is why many people will report vivid dreams during a 20 minute nap - and many times the sound environment is the catalyst. For example, if someone falls asleep for a nap on the sofa during a television news program reporting on a war, they are apt to dream of...a war scene. You may not be able to enter Deep Theta, but Theta nonetheless.

      From speaking to others over the years, I find that many people have their first LD experiences during naps, so I never try to sway them away from it. To me, it's an ideal environment for beginners (even I still do it) because all the comforting gestalts are in place: less stress/pressure to have the LD because the timeframe is limited -- diminished fear/anxiety due to it usually being daylight hours -- seratonin is higher while melatonin is released, causing a more vivid experience --- and there are often auditory stimulants during the day. All these aspects make napping for anyone new to LD (and especially OBE) enhanced. If you are continually startled out of a dream during the day, I would try practicing body and mind awareness to diminish that likelihood. Here is a good, and somewhat lengthy, tutorial which might help you with that, a process called "NEW."

      http://www.astraldynamics.com/tutorials/?BoardID=18

      Also, you asked about another website which I believed had a community of people who practiced remote viewing via OBE. Here is that link again:

      http://www.apsabre.com/

      ~Deja

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