Hello, friends.

[CookieKiaule]

Hello my dear people. I am Vaidas and i come here seeking knowledge about LD'ing. I hope the reputation of the forum is trully what it is said. I heard many things about this forum and I really do feel like this is serious and people are really friendly. Just lurking the IRC I can see that everyone is having discussions about different things and what not. I feel like this is home. Not to make a sob story but I have parents that don't believe in controling dreams and they say its not scientificly proven (sorry for the horrible English I really am.). I have one question to start off and its about when to wake up. I tried waking up and inducing WILD. I woke up about 3:30 AM but didnt get the results. I just got really tired and just decided to sleep normally. I want to ask: How does one wake up at the right time for WILD and when you are relaxing how do you avoid the urge to just not move. It comes to a point when I feel kind of the feeling of pain when i dont move and I just jump in my bed because of the pain. I hope you can understand what I am saying and again I am terribly sorry dor the horror that is my English . Best regards, Vaidas.

[Raen]

Welcome to DV If your parents do not believe that it is scientifically proven, perhaps you ought to refer them to the work of Stephen LaBerge PhD. It is in English so that might be a problem. As for WILD, it's important to try and work out when your REM cycles begin and when they end. It takes the average person about 15-20 minutes to fall asleep, and your cycles usually last for about 90 minutes each. It's better to aim for the later cycles so waking up around 4 and a half to 6 hours into sleep, taking into account the time it takes for you to fall asleep. As for fighting the urge to move, that is less important than being able to fall asleep. If you feel uncomfortable it's best to change position and hang onto your awareness while you fall asleep in the more comfortable position for you. It doesn't matter how awake your mind is if you can't actually enter sleep because you're uncomfortable I'm personally not disciplined enough to rely on WILD every time I want a lucid dream so perhaps it's in your better interests, if you are like me, that you learn how to DILD and combine that with a WBTB.