HI, im new and i have some questions.

[Baal]

Well i just discovered about lucid dreams and im fascinated, i think the potential and all the posibilities are underestimated by even probably actual experienced lucid dreamers. The problem is i absolutely suck with dreams, i veeeery rarely remember them, so i plan on making a dream journal to improve that, however i have a particulary good mind power, my concentration is flawless, so i think a WILD attemp would be my best choice, but i have a couple of questions. 1.- if the lucid dreaming occurs in the REM stage, wich occurs a lot of ours after you initially fall asleep, does that mean i have to keep my lucidity for hours to get a proper lucid dream? 2.- How much do you really rest if you are lucid while you dream, i mean some part of your brain is working and normally it wouldnt, so it may not rest that well, besides that usually when people have very vivid dreams they dont feel well rested when they wake up. 3.- When im not in full control of my mind it usually likes to bite me, for example, THC (cannabis) frecuently makes me have really scary and awful experiences, so im kind of concerned about how my mind will probably "attack" myself in the early stages of WILD with the noises and stuff, do anyone have a self destructing mind when its not under total control?.

[Seeker]

Hi Baal, Welcome to DreamViews! Let me take a stab at your questions. Also please take a look at the tutorials, a lot of stuff you might be interested in is contained within. 1.- if the lucid dreaming occurs in the REM stage, wich occurs a lot of ours after you initially fall asleep, does that mean i have to keep my lucidity for hours to get a proper lucid dream? You have several REM cycles during the night. You do not need to maintain lucidity all night, but instead can become lucid during any one of those REM cycles. Usually the REM phase just before you wake up in the morning is when people have lucid dreams. 2.- How much do you really rest if you are lucid while you dream, i mean some part of your brain is working and normally it wouldnt, so it may not rest that well, besides that usually when people have very vivid dreams they dont feel well rested when they wake up. I've noticed that I am quite rested after a lucid dream, usually, the more vivid and intense the dream is, the better I feel the next day. 3.- When im not in full control of my mind it usually likes to bite me, for example, THC (cannabis) frecuently makes me have really scary and awful experiences, so im kind of concerned about how my mind will probably "attack" myself in the early stages of WILD with the noises and stuff, do anyone have a self destructing mind when its not under total control?.[/quote] I doubt your mind will attack you at all. Lucid dreaming is not really that different from non-lucid dreaming. The only difference is that you are aware it is a dream and can exercise some control over it. If you attempt WILD, don't worry about the sensations and sounds, they are a normal part of it and they cannot hurt you. Please be sure to ask any more questions you might have, we are here to help

[irishcream]

Hi, welcome to the board! feel free to PM me with any questions you have!

[alexis]

The best advice I've heard was, "If you're scared of your dreams you're scared of yourself." I often attain lucidity using WILD and in the beginning would often become scared of the voices, sleep paralysis, etc. which occurs, to the point of waking myself up. Although frusterating, it did help to show me that I had control over the process, and would not get "stuck". I think the best way to overcome the fear is by practicing. I've also had some success with asking for a "dream friend" to encourage me to stay in the dream. For instance, while I was very close to attaining lucidity other night I began falling many floors down a shaft and looked up to see a man wink at me and smile, encouraging me to keep going. Hope that helps.

[Neruo]

Welcome to the site! All I have to say, don't smoke so much pot you freak out. Besides that: Good luck with getting lucid dreams! ^___^

[Baal]

Originally posted by Neruo Welcome to the site! All I have to say, don't smoke so much pot you freak out. Besides that: Good luck with getting lucid dreams! ^___^ } Well its that somehow i have tolerance to THC, i usually have to smoke twice what people usually do to get high and the high dosage and i get scared when my mind doesnt really control my response to the exterior anymore and i just become an spectator , and i dont smoke often, a few times a year just because its an interesting experience.

[Baal]

Well this is the 2nd time i tried to WILD, 2 failures but i feel progress. The first night i kept focusing on the bright colorfull rings i see sometimes and my breathing, i started feeling my body joints weird, like they were very heavy and they were sunking in the bed, so i think my body was falling asleep, but suddenly i felt an horrible itching in the nose, i didnt want to move but the "struggle" with my mind t not focus on the itching actually made me too aware so i failed. Today i tried it again, this time i keep focusing on my breathing, and i were cheking if i still could move my body moving a finger every period of time, there was a point that i couldnt move my fingers nor my hands but the excitement quickly woke me up, but i think im making progress. I think during the 2nd WILD attempt i lost conciousness but i constantly regained it, after a long period of time, after i experienced the paralysis i turned arround and watched the clock and OMG, it has passed an hour and a half!! I have another 2 questions... What is the aprox time i have to stay conscious to start feeling paralysis, then to start hearing the noises and eventually have a lucid dream?. When i wake up in the morning after a WILD attempt i dont feelg well rested, anyone else feels like this?

[JackSparrow]

It usually takes me about 30 minutes to feel the sleep paralysis. I started to have some HI a few minutes after the paralysis sets in, or about the same time.

[Troverman]

hehe here I go again with the hemisync tracks . they really help though. get it here http://forum.facepunchstudios.com/showthre...ead.php?t=37836

[BizzaroSephiroth]

Originally posted by Troverman hehe here I go again with the hemisync tracks . they really help though. get it here http://forum.facepunchstudios.com/sh...ad.php?t=37836 There's a lot of links there. Which ones do I download?

[ezekiel7]

This upload contains all the \"hemi-sync\" lucid dreaming tracks -hemi-sync series 1 -hemi-sync series 2a -hemi-sync series 2b -hemi-sync series 3a -hemi-sync series 3b -hemi-sync series 4 I hope this helps you guys/girls and also helps you how to Lucid dream. www.dreamviews.com is a very helpful site for begginers and expirenced lucid dreamers alike. If anyone need any help how to lucid dream and/or with any of its many tecneiques feel free to PM me. *GET IT HERE*http://files.filefront.com/lucid_dre.../fileinfo.html *GET IT HERE*[/b] File front is a very fast downloading server, although I didnt test it this file is 556 mb and I believe this would be the right one. Another MP3: For this MP3, you simply put it on loop and go to sleep with it on. It has some guy repeatedly telling you that you're dreaming with some cool music and sounds. If you wake up 4.5 to 6 hours after you go to sleep and then turn this MP3 on loop and go back to sleep a lucid dream is almost guaranteed. http://phoenelai.livetechno.net/Luci..._Induction.mp3[/b] again I didnt test it but that is another one listed on one of these forums, check it out L8erz, Ezekiel

[Baal]

Awesome im going to try that "your are sleeping" tape.

[ezekiel7]

good, you can tell me how it works before I use it ! --Ezekiel

[Baal]

Originally posted by ezekiel7 good, you can tell me how it works before I use it ! --Ezekiel ill do it in a couple of days, it was weekend and it was hard having a WILD when you are drunk

[ezekiel7]

ill do it in a couple of days, IT was weekend and IT was hard having a WILD when you ARE drunk [/b] breaking english a bit up, eh? Ezekiel, --Dear

[Oneiro]

[quote] 1.- if the lucid dreaming occurs in the REM stage, wich occurs a lot of ours after you initially fall asleep, does that mean i have to keep my lucidity for hours to get a proper lucid dream? No. Lucidity can be very fleeting, sometimes just a few seconds before your attention slips, but one can train oneself to refixate the dream and regain one's lucidity. So don't worry if your lucidity slips away fairly quickly. That is quite common, but you can train yourself to get it back later on in a dream session. [quote] 2.- How much do you really rest if you are lucid while you dream, i mean some part of your brain is working and normally it wouldnt, so it may not rest that well, besides that usually when people have very vivid dreams they dont feel well rested when they wake up. Good question. That would depend on what you dream. You can have reinvigorating lucid dreams, or frightfully tiring lucid dreams. [quote] 3.- When im not in full control of my mind it usually likes to bite me, for example, THC (cannabis) frecuently makes me have really scary and awful experiences, so im kind of concerned about how my mind will probably "attack" myself in the early stages of WILD with the noises and stuff, do anyone have a self destructing mind when its not under total control? Dreaming is suggestible. This means to say that one's lucid dreaming often mirrors one's own personal psyche: if one is a gentle person, gentle dreaming will often follow. If you're a violent aggressive person, violent aggressive dream scenarios will often follow. IMO cannabis inhibits lucid dreaming.

[Baal]

Originally posted by ezekiel7 ill do it in a couple of days, IT was weekend and IT was hard having a WILD when you ARE drunk breaking english a bit up, eh? Ezekiel, --Dear[/b] Well i was drunk at that time and also english isnt my first language

[Scept]

i doubt that you sleep worse when you lucid dream, since the mind takes the same amount of energy on any situation- even the hardest mathematical problem wont up your blood flow to the brain a noticeable amount, since its much harder for the mind to control your lungs and such then think.

[Baal]

I had to format so i didnt post for a couple of days, well a couple of nights ago i had to wake up very early, so because of that i kept waking up in the middle of the night remembering my dreams, perfect for WILDing. Since it was early in the morning there was already lots of noises, tweeting birds, the first cars going to work, and stuff, so suddenly all the sounds stopped, and i started to hear VERY LOUD electrical noises and that sound when you open the window of a car at high speed, fast pulsating sensation of speed and i felt like i was quickly falling in a spiral, i always tought those pre L.D. experiences were progressive and softer but damn, it was sudden and extremely strong, they didnt scare me but since they were so strong i got very excited that i was goig to L.D. and i woke up Is it so strong for u guys too?