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      A while ago, I had an experience where as I was coming out of a dream, my entire field of vision was filled with some sort of moving herringbone pattern and I couldn't move anything, yet seemed to be able to breathe and think normally. It didn't alarm me too much when it happened as I had read about SP, and I said to myself "just relax, it's normal, concentrate on waking up all the way", but for some odd reason I'm not sure if was a clear-cut case of one. As I was coming out, I found myself able to move again and the herringbone pattern gradually went away and I could see normally again. I had never read about people's entire line of vision being temporarily replaced by something like that, so has it happened to you?

      I also thought that somehow I'd get 'stuck' like this and end up in a sort of PVS-like state, unable to wake up. This upset me a little, but not enough to get me alarmed as it seemed extremely unlikely, if not clincially impossible.

      A combination of these experiences put me off WILD as I'm a control freak, quick to worry a lot about everything and despite the fact that I know it's all a hallucination/normal, something still is going to scare me by its mere sound or appearance, or the fact that there isn't a way to just simply stop if i get afraid or alarmed.

      Was this SP? And can I really get 'stuck' like that?

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      Quote Originally Posted by mini0991 View Post
      A combination of these experiences put me off WILD as I'm a control freak, quick to worry a lot about everything and despite the fact that I know it's all a hallucination/normal, something still is going to scare me by its mere sound or appearance, or the fact that there isn't a way to just simply stop if i get afraid or alarmed.

      Was this SP? And can I really get 'stuck' like that?[/b]
      It sounds more like some sort of post-dream hypnopompic imagery. Take a look at this (short) wiki article: Wikipedia on: Hypnogogic and Hypnopompic Imagery.

      Basically, "hypnopompic imagery" is hypnogogic imagery experienced when waking up, rather than the usual hypnogogic imagery experienced while falling asleep.. It CAN be accoumpanied by sleep paralysis.

      Basically, sleep paralysis is PART of what you experienced, I guess. You also got hypnopompic imagery and sounds. It's a sort of state halfway between asleep and awake. You CAN'T get stuck in this state. It's just a transitional phase.

      Hope that helps.

      EDIT: OH! Noticed this is your first post. Welcome to DV!

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      Quote Originally Posted by The View Post
      It sounds more like some sort of post-dream hypnopompic imagery. Take a look at this (short) wiki article: Wikipedia on: Hypnogogic and Hypnopompic Imagery.

      Basically, "hypnopompic imagery" is hypnogogic imagery experienced when waking up, rather than the usual hypnogogic imagery experienced while falling asleep.. It CAN be accoumpanied by sleep paralysis.

      Basically, sleep paralysis is PART of what you experienced, I guess. You also got hypnopompic imagery and sounds. It's a sort of state halfway between asleep and awake. You CAN'T get stuck in this state. It's just a transitional phase.

      Hope that helps.

      EDIT: OH! Noticed this is your first post. Welcome to DV! [/b]
      Ok, thanks. I just thought it was something different as that was basically all I could see, whereas in a SP state, you can see your surroundings except you see like an old hag sitting on you or something else. Sometimes, as i'm trying to stay awake and I snap awake after dozing off, I see the same thing, a sort of dark moving herringbone pattern, except as I come to, it seems to be a dark circle in the middle of my line of sight that gradually shrinks and then I can see normally. Does this happen to anyone else? Do my eyes 'turn off' when I sleep, or is that basically hypnogogic/hypnopompic imagery also?

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      Quote Originally Posted by mini0991 View Post
      Ok, thanks. I just thought it was something different as that was basically all I could see, whereas in a SP state, you can see your surroundings except you see like an old hag sitting on you or something else. Sometimes, as i'm trying to stay awake and I snap awake after dozing off, I see the same thing, a sort of dark moving herringbone pattern, except as I come to, it seems to be a dark circle in the middle of my line of sight that gradually shrinks and then I can see normally. Does this happen to anyone else? Do my eyes 'turn off' when I sleep, or is that basically hypnogogic/hypnopompic imagery also?[/b]
      SP, when experienced consciously, is just a physical sensation. The "Old Hag" that a very few experience is just an added hallucination.

      The herringbone pattern and the circle/halo sound like CLASSIC hypopompic/gogic imagery to me. The herringbone in particular.

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