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      Well they said that they saw this old hag thing and struggled against it or whatever and said they woke up with bruises (from this thing).

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      Quote Originally Posted by k_man21 View Post
      Well they said that they saw this old hag thing and struggled against it or whatever and said they woke up with bruises (from this thing).
      Okay . . . but, again, I don't see how this could happen, physiologically. Capillaries don't just burst on their own, that I'm aware of. They might burst from direct pressure, or possibly from elevated blood pressure, but how could BP be localized to form bruises like that? I suppose there could have been a lapse in sleep paralysis (it's not that uncommon - somnambulism, etc), leading to a person hitting themselves. I, personally, just don't get how spontaneous, localized bruising could occur during sleep.
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      Well how I interpretted it, although I don't believe it, is that this hag inflicted the bruises.

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      Quote Originally Posted by k_man21 View Post
      Well how I interpretted it, although I don't believe it, is that this hag inflicted the bruises.
      Right, I get that part, but the hag was in the dream (i.e. not real). I'd never dispute somebody's account of what happened in a dream, but in the physical world, if there were bruises, I don't understand how they could have been caused, unless there was a real, physical force. The idea seems to be that the power of the dream was so great and so vivid that the "mind made it real," so to speak. And I don't know how plausible that is.

      I guess I should go find the actual firsthand accounts before I start explaining them away.
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      Well I think he mentioned that he was doing some sort of OBE and that he was like awake or something weird going on. And I don't think I would suggest tryin in out lol, I'd rather leave that alone.

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      Quote Originally Posted by k_man21 View Post
      Well I think he mentioned that he was doing some sort of OBE and that he was like awake or something weird going on. And I don't think I would suggest tryin in out lol, I'd rather leave that alone.
      Oh, no, I meant go read the firsthand accounts.

      Okay, sorry, I didn't mean to hijack the thread.
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      Ahahah np, I appreciate the discussion, so how vivd are these LD's like is it as if it were in the waking world or is it more like when you dream normally but you know you're controlling it?

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