Thread: Induction Devices

Hey guys, This is my first post here, but I'm not new to LDs

I'm just wondering how everyones experiences with Lucid Dream Induction Devices have been. I tried the NOVADreamer a few years ago with Great success, unfortunately I broke my novadreamer and can't find anywhere to get a new one. More recently I tried the induction device included with the "Lessons in Lucidity" package and it worked just as well for about 1/8th (20$) the price.

Anyone else tried this? I definately suggest it.

Hi there Elliot and welcome to the forum.

I haven't had any experience so I can't be any help, however this forum offers a great amount of help.

Most of the help is in the Tutorials Section.

I'd then suggest you start on your dream recall by using a dream journal. This will be your most important tool as it will help you to remember your dreams and notice dream signs (similar patterns in dreams that usually happen, ways of telling if you are dreaming).

For Induction techniques, I'd suggest you try the MILD first mixed in with a WBTB.

There is also an Anagram List in the Tutorials as well to help you know some of the abbreviations.

Hope this helps.

Oh and enjoy your stay.

Thanks for the quick reply! If you were interested in experimenting with an induction device the one I was talking about for 20$ is here: http://lessonsinlucidity.dreamhaze.org

Hi Elliot,
I have used all 3 induction devices (novaDreamer REM Dreamer & dreamMaker), I personally find my brain tunes them out quite quickly, but if I only use them occationally then I will get the odd LD from them.

I dont see any LD induction device on the page you link to, and I dont see how anyone could make one for 20 dollars. Can you describe what it is and what it does exactly?

Are you blatantly advertising?

Originally Posted by imran_p

Are you blatantly advertising?

My thoughts exactly.. your first post on this forum is to recommend a product and your second post was to provide a link on how to order it.

If your sole reason for posting is to advertise.. please don't bother posting.

Originally Posted by Vortex

Hi Elliot,
I dont see any LD induction device on the page you link to, and I dont see how anyone could make one for 20 dollars. Can you describe what it is and what it does exactly?

Hi Elliot,
Can you please answer my question - This induction device for $20. Can you describe what it is and what it does exactly?

Originally Posted by Vortex

Hi Elliot,
Can you please answer my question - This induction device for $20. Can you describe what it is and what it does exactly?

Hi Vortex, try this site: http://www.saltcube.com/timer.html

It is a lucid dream timer that you can use on your laptop or pc (and they say it works on psp too...you just have to download it i guess)


*And if I may say, this is one of the most welcoming forum i have ever been to.

I'm really sorry about this post, I misunderstood the situation.

I never meant to offend anyone, I'm honestly not that type of guy.

No my first post was asking about peoples experiences with LDIDs, and I mentioned the ones I used as an aside. Someone replied kindly with a reply and since they had never tried an LDID I suggested one that I'd tried. You guys are really good at making new users feel welcome.

Originally Posted by Elliot

No my first post was asking about peoples experiences with LDIDs, and I mentioned the ones I used as an aside. Someone replied kindly with a reply and since they had never tried an LDID I suggested one that I'd tried. You guys are really good at making new users feel welcome.

I'm sorry, we're usually very welcoming. We just have to be skeptical when a new user starts posting about the virtues and low price of a product and then a link to buy it.
But either way, to Dreamviews.

Originally Posted by Elliot

No my first post was asking about peoples experiences with LDIDs, and I mentioned the ones I used as an aside. Someone replied kindly with a reply and since they had never tried an LDID I suggested one that I'd tried. You guys are really good at making new users feel welcome.

All your posts are in this thread.
This is obvious advertisement.

dodobird: you're an ignorant ass. All my posts are in this thread because I'm a new user. The reason I signed up was to find out what peoples experiences were with induction devices. This forum just doesn't have a very welcoming attitude and thats why I'm probably not going to be back.

Vortex: Its a software application that helps you time your sleep cycles to locate REM and uses audio cues. Theres more stuff in the package too, but I'm not about to 'advertise' it.

Elliot, there was no reason for the name calling.. no one lowered themselves to that level in their responses to you.

If you feel the need to not come back.. then that is your choice.

are you kidding me clairity? When someone makes an accusatory comment like that, its ignorant. I must have somehow crossed a really thin line between hurtful finger pointing and reactionary name calling. who knows, my bad I guess. <3

Smells like teen spirit.


..and advertising.

Originally Posted by Elliot

No my first post was asking about peoples experiences with LDIDs, and I mentioned the ones I used as an aside. Someone replied kindly with a reply and since they had never tried an LDID I suggested one that I'd tried. You guys are really good at making new users feel welcome.

Originally Posted by Elliot

dodobird: you're an ignorant ass. All my posts are in this thread because I'm a new user. The reason I signed up was to find out what peoples experiences were with induction devices. This forum just doesn't have a very welcoming attitude and thats why I'm probably not going to be back.

Vortex: Its a software application that helps you time your sleep cycles to locate REM and uses audio cues. Theres more stuff in the package too, but I'm not about to 'advertise' it.

OK, I understood from what you said that your first post was in some other thread, about LDID, and I saw that all your posts are in this thread, so I thought you were bull-shitting.
But now I realized that LDID stands for LD induction device, so you meant your posts in this thread, so you didn't lie.

Since you didn't lie, I apologize. But LDID is not a standard acronym, so my mistake is excusable.

In any case, this is a very welcoming forum.
I believe that in time, should you choose to stay here, and you get a little more experience in it, you will read again this thread and see why it looks like an advertisement, and understand our skepticism.

Take care,

And welcome to DreamViews,

dodo.

Hi Elliot.
I made my own lucid dreaming triggering device. i simply recorded my voice on a cd and i kept repeating things like "you are dreaming, you are alseep in your bed right now and you are dreaming". the whole CD is an hour long and i wake up every morning ay 3:00am and start the cd and then go back to bed. i've had tremendous success with it. none of the other methods help me (WILD, WBTB).

Agreed. I use auto suggestion files to play about mid morning and let them loop all morning during the later REM periods. Most of my dream journals are titled "audio file triggers lucid". I think its a very powerful method and works well for me.

Ah yes, I use my own Subliminal Audio as well (my own voice on a casette) and I play it every morning during my REM sleep cycle. It's the only thing that works for me too. It's funny because although I usually hear it in my dreams and I figure out whats happening, sometimes I'll hear it in my dreams and my dream characters will make ridiculous excuses to why the voice in my head is telling me I'm dreaming! WHY DO DREAM CHARACTERS GO TO SUCH EXTENSIVE LENGHTS TO MAKE YOU BELIEVE YOU ARE NOT DREAMING? IT'S NOT LIKE WE ARE LOSING SLEEP MY REALIZING WE ARE DREAMING! I HATE HOW DREAM CHARACTERS ALWAYS TRICK ME! LOL