Thanks for the reply robot, I will continue working on my recall i suppose, I mean its just frustrating to try 20 different things and absolutely nothing work, I had better success remembering my dreams when I wasnt trying to <_<.. maybe I should go at it like that, though at this point I almost look forward to sleep for the remote possibility that I will experience a LD.. hard to ignore what you want most at any given time.

Its just annoying to make a bunch of precautions prior to going to sleep, then it fail miserably lol.. Guess thats the name of the game!

Do any others reading this have a similar transitional state? Where you cannot produce real images or.. landscapes to indulge yourself in, and you seemingly get caught in between SP and dreaming... By itself its actually quite an amazing experience for me, And i really do enjoy it, However I know its only the tip of the iceberg and I want to dive deeper!