OT maybe? Peak of meditation(black room of peaceful stillness??)

[Golden Son]

Not sure if in the right topic or not, couldn't find a meditation forum, so I figured this would go good in newbie questions. A couple years ago when I was actively meditating, I was able to get to a point where once I had run through my meditation techniques(visualizing color filling my entire body/imagining all the tension releasing from each body part foot to head/focusing on breathing) and I was completely relaxed, I could get to this place I speak of in the topic. Its hard to describe it by mere words...but I'll try my best. If you were to close your eyes right now, you would see darkness created from your eyelid sliding over your eye. However, you can definitely feel that the darkness and your eyelid are close to your actual eye(within millimeters). Well when I reached this peak in meditation, it felt like the same thing, except the darkness expanded in ALL directions, 360 degrees. It felt like I was in a space-like room, surrounded in complete nothingness that stretched on forever. It was so "still" and peaceful. I actually even recall sort "transcending" the sounds in my room that were around me when I reached this amazing place, I didn't even hear them, they did not exist. I was in another location, a black realm of peaceful stillness. It was only in this meditative peak that I was able to have my first out of body experience, but b/c i was young and scared I did not allow myself to fully leave my body. Anyways, I feel this room is the start of where all higher level and spiritual things begin. It is only in this "state" that I'm able to completely shut off the mind and tap into my inner being and oneness. Does anyone have anymore information about this "state of being" or experience it themselves? I've tried a few times to get back to this "state of being" but did not achieve remotely the same thing. I tend to find myself being distracted by thoughts on and off while doing the same techniques, and can't get past that initial feeling of being of the body.

[Robot_Butler]

Welcome to DreamViews, dtrevinofl. I think I'm familiar with what you're describing. I've heard it described as the Void. Personally, I believe that all this stuff is tied up together pretty closely. Lucid Dreaming, OBE, meditation. Check out the 'tutorials' section for some "WILD" tutorials. They are meditations to help get you to the edge of sleep. If you do them before a dream period, you can slip into the dream. If you do them without a dream, you can end up in the Void you are describing. Most of the spiritual discussions, and Astral Travel / Out of Body discussions are in the 'Beyond Dreaming' section, if you're interested.

[Jdeadevil]

I think I'm familiar with what you're describing. I've heard it described as the Void. The Void in Dr. Who was another name for Hell.

[Golden Son]

thanks for the replies guys! Yeah I posted on one other forum too and got this: I believe you experienced the "Void." But I don't claim to be an expert on meditation, so someone feel free to correct me. It's a theory of mine that this void we experience is our true spiritual essence that's been tucked away by our physical bodies for survival and reproduction. This spiritual essence, the void, is your true nature and true realm of living, beyond the physical realm. It is where you truly exist, meditating merely brings you back to this awareness that it is you who creates and projects your reality, you created it So 2 people saying the same thing is enough reassurance for me. It must have been the void(I hate calling it this, the word does no justice to the actual place). If anyone has more information please post, I'm off to google. EDIT: Oh yea and can you move this to beyond dreaming please, =) thanks

[Dannon Oneironaut]

I know what you speak of. You definately experienced leaving bodyspace and opening up to higher spaces. If you mean the void as the Buddhists use the word then no, it is not called the void. The void is everything. Everything is the void. Just like whenyou dream everything in the dream is insubstantial and has no inherent reality, everything is just appearances in the void. What you had is an experience, and all experiences are void. But the experience you had was of leaving body space and entering dreamspace. In other words, you were transfering into the fourth dimension or astral world. Your mind was clear. You had a vision of emptiness. Good work. It is a good sign. But don't get hung up on the visions and experiences. Just keep meditating. Meditate in your lucid dreams. Check out my blog by clicking on the link in my signature. I describe the Nirmanakaya, Samboghakaya, and Dharmakaya. What you experienced is known as a Samboghakaya experience. There are an infinite number of experiences. This one is common and everyone who gets to the point of meditation where you have experiences something like this. But you can call it what you like. Whatever you call it it is just a word. Become familiar with this space and learn how to access it at will.