Need help with LDs

**nina** · 08-16-2004 02:00 PM

Everytime I've had an LD its like I go straight into it...from being unconscious to LD. It's totally spontaneous and I really have no control over when it happens and doesn't happen. I have never actually been in a dream and thought, wow I'm dreaming, and then start having an LD. No matter how strange or bizarre my dreams are I'm always too involved it seems to ever think that I'm dreaming. Any suggestions?

**Death-Wuad** · 08-16-2004 02:12 PM

Well I'm pretty sure one of the main reasons why we don't recognize the fact that we're dreaming is because our judgement is thrown out of wack since our brain waves have a lower frequency (your brain waves determine your state of conciousness). What you are experiencing are dream induced lucid dreams (DILD), which is how most lucid dreams are achieved. You should try some of the techniques, especially the MILD technique and the WBTB (WBTB has the best results out of anything). In case you're not familiar with WBTB, or too lazy to find what it means, it goes like this: Sleep for 5-6 hours, then stay up for 30-60 minutes while reading about lucid dreaming (www.lucidity.com is a good place), then go back to bed while telling yourself to become lucid. Staying up for 30 minutes doesn't give as good results as 60 minutes, but it does make it easier to fall asleep. Anything after 60 minutes dramatically decreases your ability to become lucid.

**nina** · 08-16-2004 04:41 PM

I think I need to start keeping a dream journal to recognize my dream signs in order to realize when I am having a dream. That's my biggest problem, no matter how ridiculous the dream I always find ways of rationalizing it. I'm also going to try the WBTB and WILD methods.

**nightowl** · 08-16-2004 08:17 PM

yea, sounds like DILD to me to. Dont worry, around 90% of my dreams are DILD.

like death said. Use WBTB or MILD, or if you're really good try WILD. all is explained thoroughly in the turorials. Also thats a great suggestion. use dream journal to recognize what yuor dream sign is.

good luck